Big Baby Miller will beat Anthony Joshua.

CST80 · Feb 18, 2019

deadACE said: ↑

You have predicted that Joshua will lose every fight since the Whyte bout. I suppose one day you will be correct and that will be your big moment to say, I told you so.
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Parker arguably beat him, or at the very least drew.
Wlad came within a **** hair of KOing him.
Povetkin won almost every round and rocked him.
Whyte had him out on his feet until his shoulder blew.

So.... there was a grain of truth in all of them.

I'm just a fan of Martin's, and clearly with the Kownacki performance, he just bailed and collected a check, he could have continued.

The rest I picked AJ to win.

nurological · Feb 18, 2019

f1ght3rz said: ↑

You can quote me later on. But you heard it first in here.

So, what's the deal about the fight? I only read "easy night of work", "Miller is garbage" and such a trash talk. Why? No arguments made.

I give you my thoughts about the fight.

If there is a pattern in Joshuas resume then it is the body composition of his opponents.
Only for the book: Big Baby Miller is 6'4 and weighed in at 315 and 317 in his last two fights. I doubt he will lose weight for the Joshua fight. I think he will pack some more pounds on, i can see him above 320 comes fight night. We'll see.
Joshuas has only faced SMALL SIZED opponents throughout his pro career. There were two exceptions but i will come to that later on.
Let's take a detailed look on his resume since he started fighting for titles and solid opponents:
- Alexandr Povetkin: 6'2 and 222 lb
- Joseph Parker: 6'4 and 236 lb
- Carlos Takam: 6'1 and 235 lb
- Wladimir Klitschko: 6'6 and 240 lb
- Eric Molina: 6'4 and 237 lb
- Dominic Breazeale: 6'7 and 255 lb
- Charles Martin: 6'5 and 245 lb
- Dillian Whyte 6'4 and 247 lb

So it's clear that his biggest opponent in terms of weight was Dominic Breazeale who came in at 255 lb. I won't do the maths for you all but you can see it: Big Baby Miller will likely come in 60-70 lb heavier than the heaviest opponent Joshuas has fought.

Considering Joshua himself is a big HW with a bodybuilder like body composition despite being not that heavy (245-255 lb) and an above average height (6'6) he is physically clearly(!!!) superior most of the time. There were three exceptions: Klitschko, Breazeale and Martin. Klitschko nearly stopped Joshua. He dropped him but couldn't finish the job because he was old and probably past his prime, still he was the guy who put Joshua on his ass. Klitschko is a boxer. Jab, jab, jab, straight right. He can only box his style, he is no brawler, no pressure fighter, has almost no inside game as he's a typical clincher. Breazeale is a boxer too. Breazeale wasn't pressuring Joshua with his size or even his jab, he was boxing and he got caught. Easy. Martin was the third exception. No idea if i have to write a lot about that fight. Martin probably quit before he entered the ring. He wanted the payday and he got it. Once he got caught the fight was over.

So what we've got here? Miller IS a pressure fighter. Style makes fights. Everyone who boxed on his own knows that size matters. If a guy with +60 lb more on his ribs comes into the ring and wants to fight you you've got some respect. Joshuas experience with those kind of opponents is almost ZERO. He has never faced anyone like Miller. Neither a similar style nor a similar size.

Miller is a 6'4 320lb pressure fighter with high volume output and good movement for his weight. He's clearly not the best boxer but he also can jab his way through a round as we saw vs. Washington. He isn't a blind basher. But he can box different styles. He can fight from the distance with his jab or he can grind you down with high volume. WITH HIS SIZE. I doubt Joshua or anyone out here can imagine how it feels if a guy like Miller is coming for you. I mean take a look at the Dinu fight. Dinu clearly wasn't in shape and also lacking will & heart but he started well on the backfoot. Miller wasn't pressuring at all in the first two rounds so Dinu had time and space to breathe and he won those first two rounds in my opinion. But what happened after? Miller raised the pressure enormously, he started to throw bigger shots and he started to raise his work rate and from that point it was clear as a whistle that the fight is basically over. I do not want to comment on the knockdowns or the stoppage but Dinu himself is 6'5 and came in 237 lb. He wasn't a small opponent. No Adamek. Miller eat him alive. A bigger opponent. Easily. I really think the size of Miller is a factor which is MASSIVELY underrated here. There are weight classes in boxing for a reason. If Miller comes in 60 lb heavier than Joshua which is not only possible, it's probably an underrated number, this would be 8 different weight classes in the normal boxing ladder. Yeah, i know the comparison isn't ideal but you all know what i mean. Or take a look at the Adamek fight. I know Adamek is a former LHW/CW and also shot to pieces + old but i mean Adamek fought some big powerful HWs in his career like Vitali Klitschko or Eric Molina and he lasted 10 rounds with both of them. Miller smoked him in 50 seconds!!! 50 seconds!!! Another factor is: How to prepare for such a guy? Miller is unique. There is no other HW in the world with his style, variety AND size. Not a single one.

In my opinion Miller can win the fight on both occasions: on points or via stoppage. He hast the work rate to outwork Joshua throughout the rounds. Joshua was fighting really conservative Klitschko like in his last two fights. Now he'll have to go for it if he wants the stoppage. Miller won't be as easy to crack as Povetkin. And he won't fight like Parker too who was running most of the time (no discredit). He's fighting in Millers backyard. Joshua is vulnerable. We all know that. No matter if fan or hater or just a boxing fan. He was rocked by Whyte. He was dropped by Klitschko. He was rocked by Povetkin. But the thing is: If Miller rocks him once, he'll get all in, he will unleash everything he has, Miller is a killer if he hurts an opponent once. Look at his stoppages.

I predict Miller beating Joshua on June 1st. I know everyone is laughing at me but we'll see. Maybe i am wrong, the odds are against me obviously, but i am pretty sure this will be a hell of a fight for Joshua and his biggest test yet. I predict this will be a close fight and i do not see Joshua stopping Miller. Mark my words. Yeah, i do not see Joshua stopping Miller but i do see Miller stopping Joshua. Yes, boys.

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I'll give you better odds than the bookies. Back your words up bro

deadACE · Feb 18, 2019

CST80 said: ↑

Parker arguably beat him, or at the very least drew.
Wlad came within a **** hair of KOing him.
Povetkin won almost every round and rocked him.
Whyte had him out on his feet until his shoulder blew.

So.... there was a grain of truth in all of them.

I'm just a fan of Martin's, and clearly with the Kownacki performance, he just bailed and collected a check, he could have continued.

The rest I picked AJ to win.
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Thats some hilarious reading of Joshua fights. I wonder if you really believe it or just on a wind up.

Maybe you just see what you want to see.

Bollywooden · Feb 18, 2019

Biggie Miller will get punched in his fat belly and quit.

derrick · Feb 18, 2019

Anyone saying Miller is fat has not seen him in real life. Miller is built like a tank. Joshua made a big mistake fighting Miller. Miller's body attack will break no stamina Joshua down within 6. Joshua will be exposed for the overrated bum he is.

Gabriel Syme · Feb 18, 2019

Baneofthegame said: ↑

Miller doesn't have the best defence but if he can walk through Joshua's shots his work rate and volume will cause him issues definitely.
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This is not a boxing analysis. In any fight, in or out of a ring, if one guy can walk through the other one's shots, he's going to have an advantage. This whole thread is based on the theory that, the fatter Miller is, the better his chances. And that's absurd. This thread is absurd.

Gabriel Syme · Feb 18, 2019

derrick said: ↑

Anyone saying Miller is fat has not seen him in real life. Miller is built like a tank. Joshua made a big mistake fighting Miller. Miller's body attack will break no stamina Joshua down within 6. Joshua will be exposed for the overrated bum he is.
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No 6-foot-4 person alive is in good shape at 320 pounds. Even NFL players who play at that weight lose it dramatically after retiring. Not because of dieting, but because of how unnaturally they eat and exercise to maintain that weight for the careers. It's the retired WRs and QBs who get fat. The linemen all drop weight without even trying.
Miller has only fought three times above 300, his last three. He has fought as low as 242. If he can be 242, 300 is fat. And this thread is suggesting he come in over 320. It's ridiculous.

Charlie Stewart · Feb 18, 2019

This is a good,fight I'm looking forward to it. Definitely not the cherry pick aj haters claim it is

Serge · Feb 18, 2019

He'll make him look like a clown at the press conferences because Big Baby is a great talker and charismatic, whereas AJ only really excels at talking with his fists.

lighteningjab · Feb 18, 2019

*SIGH* Every time heavyweight with a bit of size and potential comes along, this happens

smiffyinoz · Feb 18, 2019

CST80 said: ↑

Parker arguably beat him, or at the very least drew.
Wlad came within a **** hair of KOing him.
Povetkin won almost every round and rocked him.
Whyte had him out on his feet until his shoulder blew.

So.... there was a grain of truth in all of them.

I'm just a fan of Martin's, and clearly with the Kownacki performance, he just bailed and collected a check, he could have continued.

The rest I picked AJ to win.
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it is posts like this that make me wish there was an “unlike” button.

ACOPromotions · Feb 19, 2019

Big Baby is going to shock the world! Definitely give @GCPBoxing a follow on Twitter for pre-fight information

Aydamn · Feb 19, 2019

CST80 said: ↑

Parker arguably beat him, or at the very least drew.
Wlad came within a **** hair of KOing him.
Povetkin won almost every round and rocked him.
Whyte had him out on his feet until his shoulder blew.

So.... there was a grain of truth in all of them.

I'm just a fan of Martin's, and clearly with the Kownacki performance, he just bailed and collected a check, he could have continued.

The rest I picked AJ to win.
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What a delusional post!

Get an eye test

Birmingham · Feb 19, 2019

derrick said: ↑

Anyone saying Miller is fat has not seen him in real life. Miller is built like a tank. Joshua made a big mistake fighting Miller. Miller's body attack will break no stamina Joshua down within 6. Joshua will be exposed for the overrated bum he is.
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I hope as a UK boxing fan this mans prediction comes true lo

Bensub · Feb 19, 2019

Ban bets i say???

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