Big Baby Miller will beat Anthony Joshua.

Exactly, people are losing sight because Miller is 300 pounds and can do 12 rounds. That is nice to brag about down the local pub or local gym...

But going 12 rounds at the highest level in your division, against the top level opponents, with Olympic and amateur pedigrees, seasoned dedicated atheletes like Joshua who have the strongest team of fitness trainers, nutritionists behind him and camps....

Nope, you cannot just walk into that world and take over. Unless you are superhuman like Captain America.

No fast track to that level of fitness, opposition or quality... you have to climb there by taking the hard fights and training smart with the right teams, camps and sparring partners. Of which, Miller has not shown as of yet.

 

Yeah but we know how serious Wlad and Takam are with fitness, those guys are ALWAYS in the best shape of their lives, it shows on their body, and in their training. They are the rolemodels for fitness and conditioning in the heavyweight division.

Wach and Dauhaupaus are weekend warriors by comparison.

Besides, these are heavyweights, as you move up the spectrum of boxing weight categories you gain power and lose stamina.

It's just physics, bigger body, bigger guys, they will not be as fit as Pacaquio. AJ is carrying a lot of muscle on his frame as well which needs a lot of oxygen over 12 rounds with top level opponents.

 

I like Joshua as a boxer but i'm not huge fan boy (current fighters being Whyte, Warrington, Uysk, Loma, Gassiev).

AJ's tank aint the best but it isn't really bad, the Wlad fight aside. The Wlad fight has made people think AJ will always gas badly, leading to a strategy of 'Just tire him out and eventually take over late on' which doesn't work. It benefits Joshua because fighters generally don't come at him hell for leather anymore.

If I was Miller I'd put everything I had, everything, into knocking Joshua out inside 3 rounds.

The alternative is a Joshua UD or late TKO.

 

That's true, but we know Wlad never stops training and this proves my point... Fury takes two years off and ends up 400 pounds, Wlad takes 2 years off and comes in looking even better than he ever did in his whole life.

Yeah scientifically fitness drops as you get older, but at 40 you can still have a high level of fitness to compete. Just like you can still produce sperm and make babies even if your sperm count is lower, and erections less frequent.

Takam and Wlad have proven to have great stamina against solid opponents. Miller and his opponents have not.
So we agree it is an unknown, and also an unlikely... because you NEED good opponents to prove your stamina as we already discussed and you agreed.

I can argue to myself and say Miller can lean on AJ and make AJ carry 300 pounds, that could happen but I see AJ keeping Miller honest very early and not letting him come that close to him for fear of uppercuts and hooks.

 

You're right we don't know how good Miller's stamina is, he's yet to face anyone that could push him and test him, he's always been able to fight at the pace he wanted to set. But it's different when you go up a level and fight the top guys that can push you and force you to fight at their pace when they want at times. Top fighter will press when you want to rest or slow the pace, it isn't always bout how much you throw but when you raise or drop the tempo.

Joshua most notably gassed vs Whyte and Wlad the 2 best guys he's fought. He was pushed in those fights to some degree and it caused him to gas. Miller seems to have a good work rate but when pushed he may very well have issues. We saw the same thing happen with Arreola, he had no stamina issue then Stiverne made him work harder than he wanted and he gassed bad in their first fight.

As for the Joshua/Takam fight, Joshua obviously was struggling with the pace a bit, he wasn't gassing but he was clearly working hard to try and cut off the ring and pressure Takam and he did look lethargic at times. But he was at his career heaviest weight for that fight, I think he's learned he can't come in that heavy and fight with the same intensity.

Miller's only chance is to force the pace and make Joshua gas. He can't out box him, he can't out slug him, all he can do is swarm and pressure and tip Joshua over the edge, any fighter when tired is vulnerable and if he can get Joshua to that point he has a shot. But I think it's a big ask, he's going to have to walk through bomb after bomb and stay in the danger zone for long periods if he's to keep the pressure on Joshua and nobody so far has been able to do that for very long.

 

Ergo, yourself. Not getting into this, all those guys were stopped definitevely so you are clutching at straws and alternate realities. We can play the alternate reality game all day, and I'm very good at it.

Parker was never ever gonna win that fight, ever.

 

This will be Joshua's Sam Peter fight , even though Miller is better than Peter.

I wonder if AJ hits the deck 3 times , goes n life death , having to hold on for dear life round after round like Wlad did against his lesser version of Miller.
Hmmmm .

@gdm

 

The people who thought Parker won vs Joshua probably also scored for Holyfield in the first fight with Lewis, for Tito vs De La Hoya and for Wilder vs Fury. There's always a few who DKSAB and who couldn't score a fight correctly if their lives depended upon it. Saying Parker was competitive let alone won is clutching at straws.

 

The Takam and wlad fight’s were also the 2 fights were he weighed in the heaviest he’s weighed witch clearly contributed slightly to him gassing and he’s kept his weight down since wish we could say the same about miller who had zero discipline when it comes to his weight.