Less technical fighters who strangely excelled against better 'boxers'

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  1. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Iran Barkley ! Rough and tough .
     
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  2. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Soldier Bartfield was the less-skilled fighter who caused the most trouble for more technically advanced fighters in the 1910-'20 era. No one includes him on any list of great fighters of the 1910s, but he held wins (these include newspaper decisions) over Harry Greb, Mike Gibbons, Ted (Kid) Lewis, Al McCoy, Jack Britton, Mick King, Bryan Downey and a slug of other top-rated fighters of the era. He lost to most of them too, but they all testified that he was a tough guy to fight. By my quick count, he fought 15 world-title claimants about 46 times.
     
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  3. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ralph "Tiger" Jones kicked SRR's tail, when SRR made one of his comebacks in early 1955.
    SRR never gave Jones a shot at the MW title, after SRR k.o.ed china chin Bobo Olsen in 4 rds at the end of 1955 to regain the MW crown.

    1955-01-19 : Sugar Ray Robinson 159 lbs lost to Ralph Jones 159 lbs by UD in round 10 of 10
    • Unofficial AP scorecard: 95-99
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    • Robinson was an 8-1 favorite.
    • There was a crowd of 7,282 at Chicago Stadium.
    • The gross gate was $27,419 and the net gate was $22,778.
    • Robinson was cut on the nose in round one and on the right eyelid in round two.
    • Jones landed 322 of 407 punches (57%) and Robinson landed 176 of 514 (34%).
    • The Associated Press reported: "The former welterweight and middleweight titleholder...who started his comeback after 30 months as a song-and-dance entertainer by kayoing Joe Rindone two weeks ago, was handed the worst beating of his career by Jones....Time and again, Tiger drove Robinson into the ropes and mauled him pitifully."
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  4. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marcos Maidana warrants a mention.

    A rough and tough brawler (with very good power) who caused all sorts of problems for more skilled operators such as Amir Khan, Adrian Broner and notably Floyd Mayweather with his aggressive and awkward style.
     
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  5. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tiger Jones. Great choice. Wish I had thought of him first!

    Just to balance things concerning poor Bobo, though, Olson gave Jones the worst beating of his life. Jones admitted this himself, and there's a full kinescope of the fight to prove it!
     
  6. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not sure if Rocky Marciano counts as excelling against better boxers but he always seems to find ways to win against the ‘technically superior’ fighters.
     
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  7. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    He became quite skilled for the mayweather fights though, which is why I wished he didn't retire. His counter of the pull counter was beautiful in the second mayweather bout, caught him flush.
     
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  8. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Crazy turn of events.....great job in pointing out Olson vs Jones.
     
  9. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, Jones was as tough and durable as nails. He was one of those interesting guys who fought with his hands low and would slip and roll with punches. Maybe the most interesting! Perfect for the TV era. The sponsors liked full 10-round action fights to fill out their hour. Tiger didn't punch hard enough to knock anyone out, but he took a helluva punch, was always busy, and didn't get hit solidly very often. So the fight was a good bet to go the full 10 AND be fun to watch. He was always there and once in a while, he pulled an upset!
     
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  10. 88Chris05

    88Chris05 Active Member Full Member

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    Good shout. When the Mayweather fight was made, all I could think of was how a cut-price Mayweather-lite Alexander had boxed rings around Maidana, and I was utterly convinced that Mayweather was going to win every minute of every single round against Maidana without breaking a sweat.

    Instead, Maidana gave Floyd his closest fight since Castillo I, in my opinion. And it wasn't all down to simply pressuring and outworking Floyd; he was actually winning the jabbing exchanges for prolonged periods and really stopping Mayweather from working. I remember scoring that one 114-114 on the night, albeit I knew that Floyd had won his rounds bigger and clearer than Maidana had won his, and that if anyone deserved their hand raising it would have been Mayweather by a point or two. Proved it was no fluke by giving a decent account of himself in the rematch, too.
     
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  11. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Felix Trinidad.

    He was seemingly one dimensional and had a limited style but he was very effective.
     
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    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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  13. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Gotta throw Nigel Benn into this mix.
     
  14. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    With Jimmy Young lacking the kind of punch that would make a person be wary defensively, Ossie Ocasio's size really benefitted him. He was able to tear into Jimmy and unload his fast, light punches in bunches without worry of any reprisal. It was absolutely the perfect style to combat Jimmy at the time. Because in both instances he took Ossie lightly and paid the price both times from Ocasios swarming style.
     
  15. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is the best award and this thread , I' always remember saying how the h*ll did that happen.