Breaking: Top Rank inform WBC that Fury will NOT take Wilder fight next

No i don’t. I praised Joshua for boxing Povetkin, thought it was a great fight. And the Parker unification. Keep talking **** like the other guy in this thread making things up though.

 

Ok deepthroat you never promote anti matchroom or AJ propoganda

 

He's bottled two rematches now in fairness from contentious, close fights. Not a good look, especially if next time it's another trademark Fury five punches a round stick your tongue out thriller.

 

The problem with this is Fury fights to the level of his opponent so matching him easy will mean he just stinks out the joint .

That isn't going to help with the marination.

50/50 on PPV for the rematch was offered, should have taken it IMO

 

If you truly believe he has “bottled” it then it’s pointless discussing this further. He hasn’t bottled anything. He’s pulled out of this fight because he has been motivated by money to sign a deal with a promoter who doesn’t want this fight to take place.

Your and any other Fury hater’s attempt to question Fury’s bottle on this matter holds no weight as I mentioned previously, since he just comprehensively outboxed Wilder at a time when the majority of observers felt that he was in no fit state to take the fight.

Now I can add to this by stating that even though I am a vocal Fury supporter, I have in the past pointed out that he did bottle a fight against Ustinov when he pulled out of the fight where Ustinov stepped in for Chisora in great condition last minute after Chisora pulled out.

So if anyone here accuses me of bias you can put any of those claims to bed.

He hasn’t bottled a fight with Wilder. He has chosen the money option, which is what Joshua has done since day one.

 

I myself thought he was cashing in with the Wilder fight ,which I thought he clearly won and I give him full props for it,but turning down a 50/50 split for a title challenge doesn't make sense, career wise ,or financially.
Fury won't make that kind of money against anyone else unless it is AJ,so why not take the fight ?
If he wins his bargaining power is massively increased,if he loses but puts up a good show its still a win,win situation.

 

That's a question from everyone to Bob Arum. It's not Fury's call. He signed the contract with Arum, now Arum calls the shots.

 

Oh good, the heavyweight division has become a joke again, despite the fact that there finally are some exciting matchups. Guess that means nothing these days. Lennox Lewis will have a fit over this

 

So Fury is no longer willing to be the opponent? Fair enough. But he has to go out and prove he can be the name if he wants that to happen.

Fight Joshua, beat Joshua, and have the rematch. Then he's not the opponent. Fight a Manuel Charr in another stinking fight? That's not going to get him anywhere.

 

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Warren's scrambling

 

Not really that's a good response and echoes everything I said here. Fury and Warren will have wanted the rematch next but they've signed this deal with Arum which is financially-motivated and as a result the fight is not happening next. Very disappointing for fans but Tyson has to do what's best for his family.

 

All 3 have got BS reasons for not wanting to fight each other and have their own **** to answer to.

Fury's problem is that he's a loose cannon if self doubt starts creeping into a bloke with mental health problems it's going to eat at him. Fury's easily the most skilled and technical of the 3 but i think has realised that he was very lucky to escape the first fight without getting knocked out. We all know Wilders game plan, he's not interested in boxing, hes looking to blast hit opponents out. To go 36 mins against a bloke whose sole purpose is the land a big shot in a boxing ring is impressive, to do it for a further 36 minutes is a very tough ask.

Wilders problem is that he knows he's beatable, I genuinely believe he only wants to face A level or C level opponents. He can win the lottery against Fury or Joshua by landing that one shot and declare himself the best or he only wants to face C level guys he knows hes going to beat. He doesn't want to risk it against a Breazeale or Whyte type of opponent cause he knows they have the ability to take his title, and without the title he's nothing. He not a draw so won't make money and he's too dangerous an opponent for anyone to fight him voluntarily.

Joshuas problem is that he has too many people living off him. If he gets beat, thats it, that aura of invincibility will have gone and the casuals will start ****ing off. That's why he is being carefully matched against beatable guys, low risk high reward. Who's next in line after AJ in terms of drawing power for Hearn. No one. Once the heat dies down on AJ that's it, no more stadium fights, no more big sponsors, Matchroom stand to lose a lot of money when AJs momentum goes. So they will keep rinsing him and rinsing him until they know the bubbles about to burst. Then they'll cash him out against Wilder or Fury.

 

This is why Fury on Monday night shouldn't have said he will make sure it's Wilder next on his ifl interview. He didn't need to say anything about that.

I just find Warren's response funny as his quick to point the finger when it's other promoters. Eddie Hearn could say the AJ v Wilder fight isn't happening as Wilder doesn't want to talk but Frank Warren would blame Hearn for that.

Also what is Warren to Fury now? How much say does he have?

 

This is a good point. I was under the impression that he just signed to have his fights shown on ESPN, but looks like he's actually going to be co-promoted by Top Rank. I'm surprised Warren let his only true PPV fighter be even co-promoted but when you look at the crazy 80million deal offered then maybe Warren did the maths and decided he'll be OK.

Warren essentially has no say on both sides of the atlantic. Both BT and ESPN are absolute monsters and have invested heavily.

 

The £80 million is a nonsense figure.

Who is going to pay Fury £16m to fight whatever bum Arum is lining up?