Hearn approaches Wilder

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by nurological, Feb 27, 2019.


  1. CasualFan

    CasualFan Active Member Full Member

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    The numbers must add up to whoever is offering them out, you're not an insider. You're just clutching at straws like everyone else. Could it be that your assumptions just don't add up.

    It's also quite telling that you're trying to speak on behalf of a large portion of the worlds boxing fan base. Do you have them all on instagram or something?
     
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  2. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    The numbers add up if you understand the change in the market and the different aims and objectives of a deal financed by DAZN rather than one which is aimed at a one off PPV.

    Be honest, you pepper every response with insults and name calling. No-one can disagree without being labelled in some way or another. Present an alterative take on Hearn and you're go to response is to start name calling.

    As an experiment, why don't you speak to people on here as if they're right in front of you, maybe then you'll get a better discussion as a result?
     
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  3. CasualFan

    CasualFan Active Member Full Member

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    I get all my boxing info from this forum, I'm not sure what Matchroom has to do with it. Just for your pleasure I've only every paid for one PPV in my life and it wasnt shown on Sky. :D
     
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  4. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    This kind of post is comical. This is an Internet forum. The entire essence of an anonymous forum like this is that it’s NOT akin to talking to people in real life. I don’t know anyone on this forum personally. There is no professional image to be maintained and there is no obligation to be courteous. The essence of an online forum is that it facilitates anonymous discussion.

    I use sarcastic and OTT terms for posters on here and boxers all the time. Like calling Kownacki a “cash in hand construction worker” which is an obviously comedic remark that I wouldn’t say to his face... what’s your point exactly? If I trawled through your posts I’d probably find some similar mocking remarks made to boxers.

    My advice to you is that if you want a solely courteous and professional discussion talk to people about the sport in person.

    The point I am making is that whenever I make credible criticisms the rhetoric in retort is always “you are obsessed with hearnz”. I don’t care if people insult me on a forum, but it’s telling when people can’t argue properly against my posts.

    You tried to rationalise this new $15m offer above by saying that the market has changed and DAZN is now on board... Ok then, so explain how offering Wilder $15m to box Breazeale or Kownacki makes sense but Hearn offered Whyte £5m to box Joshua! As I said none of these numbers add up or have any sense in them, and my belief is that Hearn pulls them out of his arse to win clout with his bumsquad on social media as someone pointed out on the first page.
     
  5. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    This forum is infiltrated with paid Matchroom goons who spread pro Matchroom propaganda so that says it all. If you get all your info from here you are hardly informed.
     
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  6. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I believe the flat fee offers were derisory. You shouldn't offer a champion a flat fee in a superfight. A legitimate world champion deserves at least 30% - 40% for a unification fight because they're putting their belt on the line against the best when they don't have to. It's about respect, dignity and principle as much as anything else.

    The current situation proves team Wilder were right to wait. Provided he gets by Brezeale, he'll make extraordinary money as ESPN and DAZN outbid each other for a shot at the WBC. Although with decent judging in his last fight, Wilder would now be out of the picture. That's where we see evidence of corruption in the sport. The difference between correct and corrupt judging in that fight, is the difference between Wilder earning a couple of million over his next couple of fights, to earning tens of millions.
     
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  7. CasualFan

    CasualFan Active Member Full Member

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    What the **** are you doing here then? If this place is crap for info and just a place for Matchroom shills why are you even bothering to post?

    The fact you can't see the difference in a £5 Million offer for Whyte and a $15 Million offer for Wilder says it all... Two different countries with two different sets of economics. The numbers will vary massively which you can see in the numbers.

    Mate you were much more fun when you were just a paid fluffer for the young warrior.

    '' You tried to rationalise this new $15m offer above by saying that the market has changed and DAZN is now on board... Ok then, so explain how offering Wilder $15m to box Breazeale or Kownacki makes sense but Hearn offered Whyte £5m to box Joshua! As I said none of these numbers add up or have any sense in them ''

    You're comparing apples with ****ing engine oil. What a div.
     
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  8. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    Two different countries and two markets - yes and the UK is far, far more lucrative right now in the HW division.

    Go and check how many PPVs Whyte sold against Parker and Chisora (which was up against Warrington v Frampton) and then come back to me with a realistic view on which is the more lucrative market.

    For months the Matchroom bunsquad have justified Hearn lowballing Wilder by claiming he doesn’t bring the numbers and by pointing out his career highest payday is lower than the offers he’s had for AJ. Now all of a sudden Hearn has pulled $15m out of his arse for a fight against Kownacki and the Matchroom bumsquad are justifying it.
     
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  9. Jojojojo

    Jojojojo Member banned Full Member

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    You are a crackpot if you think anyone gets paid to post on here
     
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  10. Scissors

    Scissors Posts are sponsored by Matchroom Full Member

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    Agreed. Some people are ridiculously pro Hearn / anti warren or vice versa but I really think you’ve got issues if you think there is paid “shills”
     
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  11. CasualFan

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    You can't see the woods for all the trees in the way. It's pointless trying to get you to stop chasing your tail.

    When the public gets behind the fighters America will always out do the UK when it comes to revenue generated from a fight. 300 Million potential punters Vs 65 Million... Very simple to work out if you're not so blinded by an agenda.

    Ok so Whyte V Parker... 474K buys... £19.95...£9,456,300... $12,541,890
    Whyte V Chisora 2... 438K buys... £19.95...£8,738,100... $11,589,342

    Wilder V Fury... 325K buys... $74.99...£18,374,959... $24,371,750


    So then your assumptions are wrong... again!

    Wilder V Fury having less than half the buys generated more money than the two fights you mentioned combined. Can you imagine the pot they could generate now?

    Could you be anymore wrong? Go on, treble down. :yaay
     
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  12. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Agreed.

    Instead he wants to set Deontay up for a fall against Whyte first, I bet.
     
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  13. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    How many people post on here? In this section? On a regular basis? Thirty perhaps?

    You have to question the mentality of people who think Eddie Hearn is paying people to influence a group that small. It's full on David Icke level lunacy.

    The odd thing is that it's just far more likely that several people agree that Fury isn't that entertaining and Hearn is a decent promoter. Weird mentality to assume that line of thinking is so crazy it has to be multiple accounts.
     
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  14. CutThroatFade

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    You ****ing spastic DAZN’s model is based on NO PPVS. It’s a subscription based streaming service. If Hearn signs Wilder, they won’t be putting his arse on any PPVs.

    Again I repeat, the numbers make no sense. And Wilder is not a ticket seller as the Matchroom bumsquad have been telling us for the past couple of years.
     
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  15. 305th

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