Breaking: Top Rank inform WBC that Fury will NOT take Wilder fight next

Triggered ?

 

There’s not much else though. Joshua gets stick but he’s pretty much cleared up the division. Other than the Wilder fight there’s not a good fight out there for Fury because most of them AJ and even Wilder have already beaten and more spectacularly than Fury can.

 

This is a big issue. He's basically marketed on the basis of his character. Inside the ring he's adapted from a fairly crude giant who tended to tire people out when stopping them, to a very defensive, cautious, low-output fighter. It's worked to his credit, but it's not hard to see why the reactions to his wins against Klitschko, Seferi and Pianeta were met with such dismal responses. They were dismal fights. In America, people didn't watch Klitschko pick Ibragimov off from distance thinking 'wow, what a masterclass, he's won every round.' They booed, and it pretty much ended Wlad in the States.

His stock is fairly high at the minute based on getting up against Wilder, but coming back from a stoppage isn't exactly highlight reel stuff. People want knockouts and wars and Fury just doesn't deliver them. If he fights Parker or Pulev he could very easily deliver another twelve absolutely turgid rounds.

 

Can neither of you see he's only extra cautious against elite bangers? Namely Wladimir Klitschko and Deontay Wilder. Talking about Seferi and Pianeta is ridiculous considering the shape he was in.

What about his performances v Chisora, Hammer and Cunningham? Three stoppages with a solid output of punches in each.

I can see Fury doing a better job on Parker than AJ, catching him more often throughout.

 

How many years ago? What about his more recent performances against non elite bangers? Seferi and pienetta?

 

I think it's extremely harsh to assess Fury in fights he was clearly badly out of shape and ring rusty.

Chisora, Hammer and Cunningham may have been years ago, but they're only several fights ago. Lets not forget he was out for three years and inactive before that.

 

He was booed out of the ring after the Pianeta fight. It was absolutely dreadful. Yes, he'd been out for a while and so on, but he's never been in particularly 'good' shape, even when he was taking drugs.

Everything that Tyson Fury has shown in the ring in the past four years pretty much shows he's a defensive, inactive, low-output, safety first fighter. Again, I've no complaints about that; it gets the job done. But it's obviously not popular.

 

If it’s harsh to do that then it’s ludicrous to judge him in fights 4/5 years ago.

 

Your opinion. Harsh again to focus on the Pianeta fight as I say but whatever floats your boat.

I'll argue a fit, active Tyson Fury stops most top ten guys, as he proved capable of the last time he stayed relatively fit and active, with the stoppages of Hammer, Chisora and Cunningham.

 

What? That makes no sense whatsoever.

A.) It's quite obviously harsh to judge a fighter in his first comeback fight (Seferi wasn't a fight) having lost up to ten stone and been inactive for three years. How could any human being be even 50% after that layoff and weight loss? It's a harsh assessment without doubt.

B.) 'Ludicrous' to compare an active athlete at age 30, to when he was active at age 26? How do you work that one out? Fury probably hasn't even reached his careerpeak, being such a giant.

Bit of common sense wouldn't go amiss, lads.

 

Were any of them top ten guys? I just had a look at the Ring annual ratings for when Fury fought them. The answer in their opinion was no.

 

You were positively tumescent about Fury in the aftermath of the Wilder fight; dribbling all over yourself with the Ali and Mayweather comparisons. Yet apparently the fight before that can be excused as an absolutely minging spectacle because Tyson was still on the comeback?

It was only three and a half months mate. Bit of common sense eh?

(Seriously though, without taking the Mick, why would I be judging Tyson on fights he had against non-top ten operators from eight years ago when I can judge him on his last four fights going back four years and they're all as boring as a week in jail?)

 

That, of course, is debatable. What I will say is Fury battered two of them in first gear.

There's no guarantee of stopping anyone. AJ didn't stop Parker and Takam was fine to continue.

It's just my opinion and one I form from the last time he was fit and active. As I say.

 

Why does this hurt your feelings so badly? It's sad, really. I've tried to have a big boys debate this evening but here you go again, squeezing your testicles like a little boy in frustration.

Absolutely. It was amazing that Fury could lift his level of performance from the Pianeta comeback fight, to outbox Deontay Wilder, in such a short space of time. That's the brilliance of the man. Remarkable.

 

I’m struggling to follow where this thread is going... I think we need to bear in mind that Fury has had 3 years out of the ring, put on 10 stone, lost it and is still getting back in shape. He fought 2 puddings which were more about getting back in the ring and keeping his focus. He then jumps in the ring with the hardest hitting knockout artist in the heavyweight division. By rights, he could have easily have fought a couple more puddings and not fought a legitimate threat until the back end of 2019 and we couldn't have given him too much of a hard time about it.

Against Wilder, I don’t believe that was even 70% of the Fury we saw in 2015. He was still ring rusty, out of shape and arguably caught a few shots in the championship rounds (9 & 12) because the pace of the fight was getting to him. Taking that fight was a huge risk and way too soon but it’s made him relevant in the division again.

Maybe the knockdowns made Fury and/or his team realise that he’s tried to run before he could walk and they are being treated as wake up calls. Not one person on here or anywhere before Dec 1st believed he was 100%. Many of you thought he was gonna get bingo’d, a few of us thought that even this version of Fury had too much for Wilder...we were both sort of right in a way.

If this is Fury holding his hand up and admitting (not out in the open to the press but knowing it within himself and the team) that he does need another fight, perhaps even two before getting in the ring again with a Wilder or Joshua then surely that’s quite sensible isn’t it and we should understand that?