Breaking: Top Rank inform WBC that Fury will NOT take Wilder fight next

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by yesihavearm2, Feb 26, 2019.


  1. Scissors

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    You’ve missed the point. It weren’t about whether or not he’s ready for Wilder. Hattonmad says that Fury is only defensive against elite punchers and cites fights 4/5 years ago to “prove” it. I claim otherwise based on his most recent bouts (yes comeback fights or not) and even fights before Chisora (if you want to go back that far).
     
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  2. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    “Joshua has pretty much cleared up the division”


    *excluding the other three of the top four
    ** who have all fought at least one of the other three themselves
     
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  3. Scissors

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    You forgetting Whyte? Or are you just imagining the rankings? Povetkin 5th too who’s been dealt with. So there’s 50% of the top 5. Miller in 6th next. Breazeale 9th.

    And if you actually read what I said instead of picking little words I said Wilder too. Who’s also beat Ortiz who’s in there.

    So there’s only Pulev and Kownacki in the top 10 who haven’t been defeated spectacularly by Wilder and Joshua*

    *Miller pending.
     
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  4. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I’m yet to be convinced fat green one armed novice whyteleafe was top four in the division

    Shot midget Alec Povetkin you have a better argument for top five but I specified the top four
     
  5. Scissors

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    Who you having at 4 then? In fact let’s see your whole top 10.
     
  6. Twentyman

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    I’d agree with Hattonmad. Obviously the main reference points are gonna be a few years ago but even if we look more recently...he threw 620 shots against Pianeta (in 10 rounds) but only 430 (in 12 rounds) against Wilder. So he is more conservative against the top guys/big punchers but in turn I would also argue that his opponents punch output against Fury is also a lot lower than their average...probably because of his movement and feints.
     
  7. TonyHayers

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    That's fair enough, but if part of the discussion is about Fury is how entertaining he is, the Pianeta fight probably isn't a great example of it. He was booed out of the ring.
     
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  8. CutThroatFade

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    Pianeta was a tune up fight where he was getting the rounds in. Fury - Wilder was a terrific contest, very entertaining and Fury's style was far from boring in that. How often do you see a last round KD and the opponent tries to hang on and last the distance by holding or running?

    Fury was floored with a massive two-punch combo from the hardest hitter in boxing. He doesn't run, he doesn't hold. He proceeds to launch a flurry of punches and dominate the rest of the round on the OFFENCE.

    Joshua had a great entertaining fight with Povetkin. Before that he bored the life out of everyone against Parker and Takam.

    At the top of the sport it's about winning. Who cares if a bunch of muppets booed Fury out of the ring after Pianeta, they'd have all been on his nuts in the morning on December 2 2018. Joshua was booed out of the ring after Whyte - Chisora and he didn't even fight.
     
  9. Hattonmad

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    It's just another stick to beat Fury with. They'll use anything.

    Outboxes Wladimir Klitschko to beat him clearly on points (only man to do so). "He didn't throw enough punches."

    Outboxes the hardest hitter in the division in a thrilling contest, getting off the canvass twice. "He's chinny, a KO waiting to happen."

    After stating that he doesn't stop guys and being corrected that he stopped Chisora, Hammer and Cunningham several fights ago. "They weren't top ten guys" Two of said fights were world title eliminators btw.

    After losing ten stone and doing ten intense rounds v Pianeta in his first real comeback fight, they want to assess him as though he was almost at his best.

    It's hard to believe the lengths these people will go to, to discredit one of, if not the best British heavyweight of all time. Really, really incredible stuff. By the way, Anthony Joshua gets a pass for stinking the place out v Parker and Takam because, eh, he's Anthony Joshua. You couldn't make it up.

    Methinks certain people are terrified that time will prove Fury to be better than their boy, so the damage limitation started a long time ago. No other explanation for the time that's put into discrediting Tyson Fury. Bizarre carry on.
     
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  10. Scissors

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    10 Intense rounds vs Pianetta? :risas3:
     
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  11. ryuken87

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    It's not about having a go at Fury, it's about holding everyone to the same standards.
     
  12. Hattonmad

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    As stated; he threw 620 punches in ten rounds. A decent workrate for a guy who came from where he did.

    If that's all you took from the post, there's no point continuing.
     
  13. yesihavearm2

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    I think one of the main takes from this is that Joshua has been getting a lot of stick, especially over the past few months for holding his position on taking the lions share of the money, which has most likely prevented the Wilder and/or Fury fights from happening. Wilder taking flak too.

    Conversely Fury has been praised for his "i'll fight anyone" and "I don't care about money" attitude and was especially praised for taking the Wilder fight so soon, and rightfully so.

    The reality is, Fury has now taken a money-first deal and has stuck his middle fingers up to his own fans by denying them the fight they most want to see for $$$. This is exactly the sort of thing that that AJ would be crucified for, yet I've seen respected posters on here the last few days say things like "Fury's family comes first" whilst simultaneously trashing Joshua.

    There is definitely one rule for Fury here on this forum and another for AJ, and I say that as a massive fan of both. I even posted my photo here a while back with Tyson.

    The sad thing is, it looks as though the top HW's are all going to stand their ground and taken the easier fights for $$$. It could be late 2020 before we see Joshua vs Wilder or Joshua vs Fury and to be honest the blame is now on all of them, and not a singular fighter.

    The loser = the fans.
     
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  14. Hattonmad

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    Well all my points were regarding his achievements in the ring which for odd reasoning, several posters go to great lengths to discredit, which is illogical given what he's achieved and uncecessary. It's like they take any compliment of Fury as a dig against AJ. Very odd. Two great fighters, Fury has the edge for me though until AJ beats him. My opinion.

    As regards finances, I personally don't give fighters much flak, if any, because A.) Promoters generally run the show and B.) Top fighters get offered deals that are too lucrative to turn down. I don't blame AJ for Wilder no happening, I blame Hearn. I don't blame Fury for rematch not happening, I blame Arum. Only difference here is Fury has faced and outboxed Wilder.
     
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  15. BigDoofus

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    By calling out Fury when he was 28 stone and suffering from mental illness?
    Or by demanding $50m to fight Wilder and then waddling away?
     
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