♦♦GGG, easiest run for a P4P fighter who made over 50 million??♦♦

Canelo

• Numerous gift decisions through paid judges
• Busted for PEDs
• Created his own weight division
• Weight bully
• The catch-weight king
• Roided concrete slabs
• Loaded gloves

 

Proof? Didnt he test positive -- twice -- for steroids and didnt a report surface that his spree fight drug screen was either thrown out, he amd Oscar straight up refused it, or was thrown out after being collected and never tested? Look, I'm not a sucker, usually where there is smoke, there's fire. There has been way too much smoke in Golden Boys history, particularly pertaining to Canelo. I e been an athlete and have worked out my whole life. I know plenty about PED's, anabolic steroids, usually universal traits exhibited by most anyone/everyone that cycles and stacks steroids, physical indicators and flags someone has been juicing etc., etc. Canelo, besides checking most if not every box above, was the shorter guy coming up from a smaller weight class and was suppoaed to be the noticeably smaller fighter compared to GGG who is a smallish to average sized middleweight. instead Canelo comes in built like a Tank looking noticeably bigger, more cut, and different than he ever had in the past and ended up being the noticeably BIGGER fighter between the two. If that doesnt set off alarm bells, I got this great beachfront property in Kansas....... Oh, and he is also backed by the biggest and most powerful promotional company in boxing and is their cash cow and by far the highest selling boxer in the world. Proof? Get outta here with proof. That's stone cold sucker **** if you dont honestly believe he was juiced to the gills. Then 6 weeks to 1 MONTH before the rematch a video surfaces showing Canelo in training camp. in the video, he is SIGNIFICANTLY smallas, way less thick, not nearly as broad, less cut, nowhere near as explosive looking and MUCH slower looking. Fast forward to fight night and the weigh in, the same chemically engineered tank from the first fight shows up -- litterally a carbon copy. Naturally, a transformation of that magnitutude takes at best 6-8 months if you go the natural -- if its possible at all. 6 weeks to a month? Come on kid.

Forget all that **** anyways. You didnt address a single question from my post. Look, I though GGG won the first fight clearly and think he edged the second but I'm open minded and understand everyone scores fights differently so I'm not calling robbery on any of the decisions. Fact is he fought two elite fighters who were in their primes while he had begun to decline and officially is 1-1-1 in those three fights. Thats IMPRESSIVE. Especially the Canelo case because in Las Vegas -- notorious Golden Boy territory -- it was pretty obvious if it went to the cards GGG was losing if the fights were anywhere near close and competitive. And they were. And props to Canelo, he fought his balls off, but you dont see me makong threads bashing his income. No fighter IMO makes anywhere near what they are worth especially taking into acxount what they sacrifice and the risks they take. Thats disrespectful to call your boys best "win" (on paper at least) a lucky guy to have made so much after he put so much into the spkrt and fought 2 elite fighters in their primes while he was on the decline. Period. As I azkes before, name any other currwnt fighter besides Pac(anyone currently relevent and will be for the forseeable future) and I doubt you find two many if any that fit the criteria I gave you.

You swinging from Canelo's sack = me saying (on a clear and sunny day) the sky is blue. Duh. We all get that and aee that, and unfortunately none of us can help you with that and you dont seem to want help so as lo g as your happy, keep swinging and tugging and enjoy yourself(and Canelo) but as the epitome of a fanboy why do you keep bashing the fighter and hating on him (GGG) that legitimized your hero's CV and all but cemented his legacy? Dont you get it dumbass, the more **** you talk about him and the more you do to lessen peoples opinion of GGG, the more your idol, his CV, and his legacy take a hit with it. Didn't @CST80 jget ha e a very valid thread on this very tipic going the other day?

In short -- kid, are you plugged in?

 

Why you moaning about another mans wage and success for, wtf has it got to do with anyone ?? Even if he made 150 mil, good on him, that my friend is a very successful human being and very respected by all in Boxing bar the agenda cry babies with victim mentality...In short, he's a pure winner !

 

• And one last thing, I'm not some EE/central asian boxing guru or superfan. Outside of the Emerald islas, a fighter from EE/CA really has to impress me for me to warm up to them and root for them and historically most of my favorite fighters have been either black or Latino/Chicano/Mexican, so I have zero racial bias involved or invested in ANY fighter. I try to be objective when speaking boxing as best I can but I do admit I have a soft spot a d slight bias towards boxers from Massachusetts, New England, the northeastern US and boxers who are former veterans -- but I'm open and honest about it so people can take that into consideration when I'm talking boxers that fit those bIas' . what im saying is I don't have any dog in the GGG- Canelo fight and call it as I see it. Can you honestly say the same for yourself?

 

He had all day to fight Ward but he rather chase old or smaller fighters instead of seeking out real challenges. Win lose or draw the Ward fight would have done wonders for his legacy. I've discussed dates and times many times here do your own research it has been done to death.

GGG was never going to be a big star here. He wasn't good or charismatic enough. HBO tried shoving him down our throats but his true level spoke for itself and when he got on the grand stage he didn't deliver period.

Those guys you listed didn't have HBO backing them and Jim Lampley sucking their dicks like GGG had. They chose to promote the wrong guy IMO.

He was ducked by a young Saunders and a old Strum. He also took a lot of step aside money. If he keeps claiming guys are ducking him then move up like alot of fighters do it's not like 160 back then was a hot division, it was trash.

 

All day? That's your answer about a specific time? OR does this 'all day' include when Ward was injured and/or in court w/ his promoter?

Fact of the matter is, you can't come up with any specific times. You say you have, but I've been here long enough to know you've repeated just the same stuff. Ward was hurt and came back as a LtHW BASED on a bout w/ Kovalev. That was his HBO deal, tune ups (Which you guys never wanted 3G to have BTW), then Kov.

No, he probably wasn't every going to be as big as Canelo or Pac. So? His fights are what captivated the fans. Hence his selling out LA. LV, and NY shows all thew while being an foreigner.

So you decided to hate him because what? Because he had some annoying fans who thought he was fantastic?
YOU decided to hate him because you didn't agree with promoter or network hype? (BTW, that's what promoters and networks do for their fighters).
OR you decided to hate him because he didn't fight exactly who you wanted him to?
OR...Maybe you decided to hate him because he was asked about fighting Floyd, and he said he would. We know this is the one.

No, they had SHO or someone else doing it. SO, I guess a fighter needs HBO and Lampey to get huge. Where do you come up with this stuff Pimp?

He didn't KEEP claiming it FFS. He was asked in interviews at times about certain opponents. And reporters simply WROTE things in articles bringing stuff up like that.

Who cares how hot 160 was or not. Did you give Hopkins **** for setting a MW defense record when it wasn't 'so hot?'

These guys have goals of their own. Who the hell are we as fans to try dictate how or who WE FEEL they should fight? We have nothing invested in them, other then being fans.

 

It's funny how you wrote all of that but discredited yourself in the first sentence. Canelo never tested positive for a steroid.

 

Isnt it ironic that most if not all Canelo's fanboys are Mexicans or Chicanos and at least the majority of GGG fanboys are white dudes -- especially considerimg Canelo is white and GGG half white. For the race obsessed "fans" on here that has to be a total mind**** and leave them feeling like they've been 50% duped and 50% sold out. Lol what a ****es up reality that must be to take a part in.

 

yeah pistal...EVERYTHING you wrote is now wrong because you said steroid...

 

Ward answered GGG's challenge when GGG was willing to fight JCC Jr and Froch at 168 he said what about me at 168 and GGG said no for you a catch weight. The fact is GGG knew Ward was too good and ducked him.

Here you go again being a hypocrite. You say I hate GGG because of his fans yet you're doing the same thing with and hating an even better and more proven fighter in PBF. You hate PBF because of his fans. So don't throw stones if you live in a glass house. Compared to PBF, GGG is a hypejob who didn't deliver when it was time to step up period end of discussion. An old PBF in his 5th weight class damn near shut Canelo out while GGG a career MW went life and death with him. Going 0-1-1.

HBO back then was still bigger than Showtime it had more subscribers you already know this Lance. HBO pushing him meant alot.

Greater fighters than GGG have been bashed for staying in a weak division. They have to move up and dare to be great while already have proved themselves against elites but GGG doesn't have to? He can just sit at 160 and that's just fine? It doesn't work like that.
As far as Hopkins atleast he has Tito on his resume at 160 which is still better than any win that GGG has there and he still moved up in weight.

 

Clenbuterol IS a steroid, just with very minor anabolic muscle building effects, its more of a cutting agent in a stack.

 

Thats incorrect. It is a steroid, just not in the common sense of the term anabolic androgenic steroid, because like I said, it has minor anabolic muscle building properties and is mainly used as a cutting agent -- funnily enough for broads. But it IS a steroid.

 

It's classified as a beta 2 agonist and is similar to adrenaline (paraphrasing wiki). It's an amine.

 

It's not like you'd understand the difference even if you read about it.