What middleweight in history could have beaten a fighter as big and as powerful as Callum Smith?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I`d prefer if people didn`t bother saying Ray Leonard because Lalonde wasn`t anywhere near as good as Smith, so is there anyone? I suppose Ezzard Charles because he had some fights at middle but lets say middleweight champs instead, Bob Fitzimmons? Was he a middle champ though? Anyone else? Ketchel?
     
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    Bob Fitzsimmons,
    Freddie Steele,
    Sugar Ray Robinson,.
    Mickey Walker,

    among others

    And of course:

    Harry Greb
     
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    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Quite a few of them

    But RJJ tops the list
     
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    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    What are you saying? Jones was obviously a Fraud and a Bum.
    Leonard would beat him, definitely.

    Callum Smith takes Jones soul.
     
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    Was Bob Fitzsimmons a middleweight champion?? That is yr question? Tell me mark, is there a sturdy oak tree in ur yard? Do you own a rope?........
    As to your other question, Dwight "Tiger" Walker beats him. Probably by early knockout.
     
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    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Didn't Hopkins move "down" from Lthvy to MW?
     
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    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think his first fight, but I would still qualify him as a MW
     
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  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    lol! I forgot about Roy Jones also, but he never beat anyone with the speed, power and size of Smith, Jones didn`t outright beat Tarver in their first fight and Ruiz didn`t have the speed of Smith, and I don`t have a yard.
     
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    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rt.....and Hopkins would turn the fight into "a typical Hopkins type fight".
     
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    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Phew! I forgot about B-Hop, I`ll have to check on wiki, thanks.
     
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    Which typical his more aggressive, style of his early days or his more passive defensive counterpunching style of his later years.
     
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    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Leonard never performed well at super middle he was very sloppy against Lalonde.
     
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    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Fullmer-grade style......left, right, followed by some type of butt.
    Hopkins:
    height 6′ 1″
    reach 75″

    Smith:
    Height: 6′ 3″
    Weight: 168 lbs
    Reach: 78"
     
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    Virgil Hill?
    Reggie Johnson?
    Montell Griffin?
     
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    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    In my opinion (a Charles nuthugger tbh) that he was the most skilled fighter in his prime and I wouldn't pick anyone between 160 and 200 lbs to beat him on his best night. So I obviously pick him, Jones COULD outbox him easily too, but if he's caught then it's night night. However I think Toney beats him rather convincingly as well as greats like Walker, Greb and Robinson could.
     
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