What middleweight in history could have beaten a fighter as big and as powerful as Callum Smith?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I`d prefer if people didn`t bother saying Ray Leonard because Lalonde wasn`t anywhere near as good as Smith, so is there anyone? I suppose Ezzard Charles because he had some fights at middle but lets say middleweight champs instead, Bob Fitzimmons? Was he a middle champ though? Anyone else? Ketchel?
     
  2. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Bob Fitzsimmons,
    Freddie Steele,
    Sugar Ray Robinson,.
    Mickey Walker,

    among others

    And of course:

    Harry Greb
     
  3. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Quite a few of them

    But RJJ tops the list
     
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  4. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    What are you saying? Jones was obviously a Fraud and a Bum.
    Leonard would beat him, definitely.

    Callum Smith takes Jones soul.
     
  5. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was Bob Fitzsimmons a middleweight champion?? That is yr question? Tell me mark, is there a sturdy oak tree in ur yard? Do you own a rope?........
    As to your other question, Dwight "Tiger" Walker beats him. Probably by early knockout.
     
  6. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Didn't Hopkins move "down" from Lthvy to MW?
     
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  7. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think his first fight, but I would still qualify him as a MW
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    lol! I forgot about Roy Jones also, but he never beat anyone with the speed, power and size of Smith, Jones didn`t outright beat Tarver in their first fight and Ruiz didn`t have the speed of Smith, and I don`t have a yard.
     
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  9. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rt.....and Hopkins would turn the fight into "a typical Hopkins type fight".
     
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  10. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Phew! I forgot about B-Hop, I`ll have to check on wiki, thanks.
     
  11. PhillyPhan69

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    Which typical his more aggressive, style of his early days or his more passive defensive counterpunching style of his later years.
     
  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Leonard never performed well at super middle he was very sloppy against Lalonde.
     
  13. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Fullmer-grade style......left, right, followed by some type of butt.
    Hopkins:
    height 6′ 1″
    reach 75″

    Smith:
    Height: 6′ 3″
    Weight: 168 lbs
    Reach: 78"
     
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  14. roughdiamond

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    Virgil Hill?
    Reggie Johnson?
    Montell Griffin?
     
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  15. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    In my opinion (a Charles nuthugger tbh) that he was the most skilled fighter in his prime and I wouldn't pick anyone between 160 and 200 lbs to beat him on his best night. So I obviously pick him, Jones COULD outbox him easily too, but if he's caught then it's night night. However I think Toney beats him rather convincingly as well as greats like Walker, Greb and Robinson could.
     
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