JOSHUA AND STEROIDS!!! Hearn dodging TUE accusations; hanging AJ out to dry! WHYTE goes public!

Serious allegations which have never been directly denied meanwhile no threat s of any lawsuits for libel and defamation of character.

Do these numbskulls really think if there wasn't any truth to any truth to these allegations then threats of court action wouldn't be pursued?

Joshua's groupies are putting up a stronger act of defiance against these serious allegations than him and his team

 

I'm not attempting to shut down anything. I'm trying to be reasonable. This thread is just turning into a backslapping exercise among the usual crew of Joshua haters that amounts to little more than suspicions based on your one-eyed interpretation of certain information. I asked early in the thread on for someone to show me actual evidence (i.e. data) that proves Joshua put on 20 pounds of muscle in 12 months. Potatobrain claimed it was an "impossible acquisition of muscle" post Olympics. He then doubled up by saying "No athlete in history has done the muscle growth he did, in the time he did."

All I asked for was some data - i.e. weights/times. How does he know the weight gain was pure muscle? Not exactly unreasonable questions to ask is it? Same with the TUE allegations. All from Miller, who is trying to get under Joshua's skin. But with little basis in fact. Yet I'm the villain for just asking for some simple facts.

 

If someone provided you with all the data you'd ever need to extrapolate an answer, you'd still find a way to obfuscate it if it confirmed anything untoward. You're obviously intelligent enough to know how commitment bias works and how near enough any set of figures and data can be interpreted and picked apart via critical appraisal.

This is why the usual "numbers" presented by the MRFC non-appointed non-qualified, voluntary accountants should be taken with the disdain they deserve, they prove nothing unless context and source is given and THEN analysed. For the record, I don't buy into the 20lbs thing wholeheartedly myself at present, but there are serious questions around a TUE.

Re the Miller mind-games, doesn't that strike you as an extremely high risk to reward strategy? Why not just go on about AJ's mother? Throwing around TUE lines to aggravate a professional athlete backed by an organisation with deep, deep pockets strikes me as rather foolish given you know, defamation laws and such like.

 

Find the TUE details and proof then let's discuss it.

 

A TUE for testosterone for a muscle bound and lean 29 year old Heavyweight world champion would without doubt demonstrate that he has used anabolic steroids because the only reason why he would need the TUE is to boost his testosterone levels after his body stopped producing natural testosterone as a result of prolonged use of exogenous testosterone.

That’s why it’s such an important allegation and that’s why his silence on the matter is so pertinent. It doesn’t matter if the TUE is legal, it’s the reason for needing the TUE that is important.

Keep talking out of your arse though, it certainly makes you look foolish.

 

I don't discount the possibility he might be doping, I'd just rather give the benefit of the doubt until something is proven or carries more weight than a conspiracy theory perpetuated by his detractors (Miller and Whyte included). But apparently that means I'm a "fanboy in denial".

It's getting to the point where it would be easier if he was caught doping, because then people might stop banging on about it.

 

Well we won't know because nobody can provide any.

 

This is my viewpoint but you're more eloquent than I am.

I don't even particularly like AJ that much, I just have no idea where this 20 pounds of muscle guff comes from.

 

You jumped in here and the first thing you did is insult and discredit everyone in this thread calling them idiots who were ''flapping their gums''

That tells me you are personally hurt by these allegations and do not wish to hear of word of it. Those are the actions of a fanboy whether you like it or not.

The TUE is not a conspiracy theory. AJ never denied it and he has NEVER refuted taking any form of steroids.

When asked about the sudden growth spurt during his time in the Olympics to the professional, when he was gaining ridiculous amounts of pure muscle, whilst retaining low bf, he put it down to being underweight due to smoking weed and getting back to his real weight when beginning training like an athelete

That sounds more like a conspiracy to me, but yet you like the eager fanboy, will swallow that ******ed story without question.

And It's not just Miller and Whyte who have been on the front line questioning Joshua, but also Parker, Wladimir and Vitali Klitschkho who've suspected he is roiding and getting away from it.

But you seem to believe that you know better than these people, which only highlights your folly.

These men are risky heavy lawsuits against a multi million dollar brand, just to peddle a conspiracy? You seriously believe that or you just going to come out with more one liners and more tears?

 

Joshua is actually a crab-like alien that hatched in the year 3000bc.

 

It comes from jealousy and self hate. Not all but probably a few of the posters have a race agenda.

It's sad that grown men are emotionally moved and motivated to try and tear down somebody who has achieved more than they ever will. Wether that be in their respective career or just the way they look. 20 pages of salt.

 

"Allegations". You said it. Thanks for proving my point. Why would I be hurt by them? You're the one that seems upset that someone would dare challenge them. You don't deal with opposing opinions very well as your track record shows. How many time have you been banned?

By the way, I didn't just "jump in". I was in this thread since before you were unbanned, asking for basic evidence of a claim which was never provided.

 

Agreed. If there was more substance to the claims then I might believe them. But they are flimsy as anything, no matter how loud the accusers shout and stamp their feet.

 

You have no point.

You've just been crying and crying and dismissing everything as a conspiracy.

You've not provided any substantial counter argument in regards to the TUE, and why fellow sports, doctors and analysis have been leveling these accusations against him with full impunity against any court action.

I have no problem with people presenting an opposing opinion. But when you are just throwing insults left right and centre at those who are trying to have a mature discussion, then I will have something to say about.

You have no idea what I was banned for, so I suggest you keep your mouth shut on that subject.

 

Okay, so show me some credible evidence Joshua has even used a TUE, never mind legitimately or not.

The burden of proof is on those making the claims. All I've asked for is some actual evidence, which still seems to allude you and everyone else. All you do is talk and talk, but still not a single shred of proof is forthcoming.

Oh, so you don't like me making assumptions about why you were banned for the umpteenth time? It's not nice is it, when someone makes an unfounded allegation without knowing all the facts...

You "suggest I keep my mouth shut". Oh really, or what?