Ike Ibeabuchi vs Joe Frazier

Joe is under appreciated ,he beat Ali 1of 3 and just look at thriller in manila. No way dec.Joe by late ko

 

Bull Feces

 

One thing is certain it would be a barn burner A fight I'd love to see Neither man knows the word quit

 

Ike would have destroyed him. Bad matchup for Frazier

Fraizer could not hurt him! Why? We saw an in shape David Tua unload and he could not hurt Ike. Ike had a decent/developing jab and a hammer of a high hand, which Frazier could not take to many of. and a hard hook/uppercut, which took out Chris Bryd, who I think took a better punch than Frazier.

Frazier was a limited move forward only type of boxer. He had no real jab, a weak right hand, and outside of a fast hook that he could fire all night long, not much else to win a boxing match on points with. Sure the other guy could run and cover up all night to lose on points, but Ike would not let that happen.

 

I think all of them on paper could conceivably match those wins. That is why I said it.

 

And Pat Comiskey, Charlie Rezlaff, Jeff Merritt, Gerry Cooney etc etc etc. There’s always been guys that look like world beaters early on.

 

I don’t think that is certain. Tua certainly was a hard puncher but at the point of career Tua was at when they met there is good evidence the two of them smothered their own power.

After all, there was absolutely no evidence of any facial damage what so ever when the two met. Compare that to the facial damage when Frazier and Ali fought one another.

If you study and understand boxing enough, you will learn that there are fights when men can be so evenly matched that they can nullify one another. It is not my job to educate you on this matter but I can elaborate on this if you genuinely want to learn something. Of course, if you have already made your mind up I can’t help and I will save myself punching out the required paragraphs to demonstrate this.

Frazier got dropped by Bonavena and George Foreman. Are you honestly suggesting muppets ike fought outside of the one puncher he did fight qualify anything? And who is Tua in the scheme of things against the first guy to beat Muhammad Ali?

do I believe that as it stands Ike Ineabuchi did not surpass guys like Comiskey, Merritt, Cooney etc because he didn’t? Hell yes! Do some research and get back to me when you have explored things correctly enough to forge a worthwhile opinion.

 

It could be as good and as short as Frazier’s fight with Manuel Ramos. Where is evidence Ike could last longer?

 

Surviving 12 rounds and hundreds of punches from David Tua, for starters. You can't be serious.

 

By the time Frazier fought Ali...Ali was slower and not high volume....Foreman was too big and strong period for joe.....Tua fought at the same Frazier type pace in his fight with Ike...he was also naturally stouter, stronger and hit harder than Joe

IMO Ibeabuchi hit much harder than Ali but not quite as hard as a Foreman....he did not use his strength the way Foreman used his but he was nearly as strong which poses an issue for Frazier in fighting in his range

This would be about matchups there is a reason Fraziers team avoided big powerful fighters, the Ike-Tua fight is everything I need to see to know Frazier ain't hurting or muscling Ike but Ike may be hurting Frazier

Gotta go with the matchup being bad for Frazier-I like Ike mid to late

 

Sure you do.

 

LOL I knew Ike from the day he arrived at Curtis Cokes Home of Champions gym fresh from Nigeria
I was laughed at when I predicted he'd beat Tua . What jhappened to Ike was a tragedy

 

Frazier had an excellent, jolting jab that snapped his opponents’ heads back.
He was also better defensively, particularly when it came to straighter punches, compared to David Tua.
Ike opened with jabs in his encounter with Tua, and it was that strategy that won him the majority of the early rounds. I don’t think that points to a Foreman-like demolition, as some have come to suggest; in my opinion, that conclusion is both lazy and unimaginative.

Ibeabuchi could very feasibly win by knockout, but I find it likelier that Frazier outworks The President over 15.

 

I'm 29 and only familar with Cleveland and Cooney. I think Byrd would fairly easily decision Cooney. Tua beats him Via KTFO.

 

You are entitled to that view. However, this is about the Byrd that Ike fought who had not yet beat anybody serious. Cooney would be favoured to beat Byrd. Especially off of the wins over Norton and Ron Lyle. At that stage many people picked him or hoped for him to beat Larry Holmes.

Nobody would favour Byrd to beat an unbeaten Larry Holmes. Especially at the point where Byrd met Ike. Marvis Frazier had better credentials to meet Holmes at that point.