Joshua vs Bowe

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by George Crowcroft, Mar 17, 2019.


Who wins

  1. Joshua Points

    2 vote(s)
    9.1%
  2. Joshua KO

    6 vote(s)
    27.3%
  3. Bowe KO

    11 vote(s)
    50.0%
  4. Bowe Points

    3 vote(s)
    13.6%
  5. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

    27,131
    44,890
    Mar 3, 2019
    Obviously back in the 90s, Lewis and Bowe were the big cats, and today obviously Joshua and Wilder are.

    Having re-watched Rummy's 90s heavyweight documentary he states, that Lewis (due to only having one belt) was in Bowe's shadow, I see simarlarities with Wilder and Joshua
    After this whilst reading the Lewis vs Wilder thread it got me thinking, how does Joshua vs Bowe go
     
  2. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

    16,213
    15,237
    Jun 9, 2007
    From what I've seen so far. The best version of Bowe stops Joshua. Bowe did everything better. Everything.
     
  3. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

    4,899
    7,574
    Jul 18, 2018
    Bowe mid round KO, outclasses Joshua in every way except perhaps power
     
  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

    27,131
    44,890
    Mar 3, 2019
    I'd have to agree here, If Joshua boxed, Bowe would out jab, if they Traded Bowe would match his power with neater punches and better selection. But at mid range, Joshua has his best chance here, if he mixed up with hooks and uppercuts then he could get a KO but Bowe did that better. I can't see anything else other than a Bowe KO
     
  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

    27,131
    44,890
    Mar 3, 2019
    It's very possible that they match in Power as well. If they don't it's close
     
  6. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    18,095
    15,563
    Dec 20, 2006
    Tough question? I was huge on Bowe potential wise prior to his prime and envisioned a bigger stronger quicker Holmes...he fell just short of that for me and also had reluctance to fight the very best.

    I like Joshua skill wise and see good skill and power. About 2 years ago and maybe even a year ago I had similar hopes for him. But I also see a similar reluctance to face the best.

    I would favor Bowe at this stage 55/45 or so perhaps 60/40, but I am not sure I fully know who I think Joshua is or might be. This might be easier to answer in a couple of years
     
  7. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,677
    4,408
    Jul 14, 2009
    Bowe destroys him
     
    lloydturnip likes this.
  8. h8me

    h8me Member Full Member

    301
    270
    Nov 14, 2017
    Exactly, it's possible that we haven't seen the best version of AJ yet.
     
  9. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    11,274
    2,538
    Mar 16, 2008
  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

    27,131
    44,890
    Mar 3, 2019
    It is, I like AJ and with the 100milion thing with Wilder going on I think he is willing to fight the best. Should Joshua beat Miller in a round or 2 I don't think I'll change my opinion, but if he goes 7/8 and shows me something new I'll give him more credit, but right now he doesn't really do anything better than Bowe
     
  11. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,467
    9,478
    Oct 22, 2015
    Prime vs Prime, Bowe destroys the overrated Joshua ( I know some feel Bowe was overrated, I disagree, Bowe was lazy. But the skill level was upper echelon, If he had half of J.Fraziers desire, we would be arguing where to place him in the top 10 ATG's) Joshua though, is very Robotic, stiff, seems to be thinking about what he should do as opposed to instinctive knowing what to do. Has endurance issues. He is very fortunate to be a boxer in this era where being a better athlete than your opponent can take one far.
     
  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

    27,131
    44,890
    Mar 3, 2019
    Why'd you think Joshua's overrated? I feel he's overrated by Casuals. But he's quite comfortably the No.1 Heavyweight until someone beats him
     
  13. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

    71,562
    27,187
    Feb 15, 2006
    A reasonable prediction, but it could be a somewhat dynamic one!
     
  14. h8me

    h8me Member Full Member

    301
    270
    Nov 14, 2017
    He's pretty nice on his legs to be honest but that's true. I wouldn't be surprised if AJ's prime would come up in a few years, kind of like LL's, although I'm not sure I see enough potential in him to overcome Bowe's prime.
     
    George Crowcroft likes this.
  15. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

    55,255
    10,354
    Jun 29, 2007
    While I'd pick Bowe ( 60/40 ), he did not do everything better. IMO Joshua has a better right hand, and seemed to have a knack for landing his best when he really needs it. Hopefully Joshua can fight Wilder and Fury. His resume is full of old men, and has already had too many easy title defenses.