Deontay Wilder set to turn down 100 mill Dazn offer

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  1. KenBoon

    KenBoon The Marquess of Queensbury's proof reader Full Member

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    Windmill boy not taking $100 mil on a 3 fight deal tells you all you need to know about his 'advisers'. Surely its best for them to cash out on their prized asset now as in all honesty he's going to fall pretty damned soon, best for it to be against AJ and trouser the reputed money on offer.
    If it shall ever come to pass, I predict a brutal knockout bestowed upon the man they call 'Windy Miller'.
     
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  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wlad won't be coaxed out of retirement to fight Wilder, had he been motivated to fight Wilder he would have not retired and tried to fight Wilder. What's coaxing Wilder out of retirement is that supposed $40 mill 3 fight deal DAZN offered him. I see Wlad maybe fighting the winner of Povetkin/Uysk or a Joshua rematch, both big fights for him.

    If Wlad does return it will likely be on DAZN, that's where the money is. Doubt Wilder/Wlad would do enough on PPV to warrant him choosing this path, if Wilder/Fury did 325K then Wilder/Wlad probably does a similar amount or maybe less as Wlad is old, been retired and had lost to Fury and Joshua already. Wlad was never a big draw in the US, he adds little to the promotion in terms of revenue compared to Fury, at least Fury was loud and could promote a fight to boost numbers.
     
  3. Charlie Stewart

    Charlie Stewart Most Merciful Full Member

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    Those interviews at the spence Garcia fight were utterly pathetic, not a single one asked him about the biggest duck in history.
     
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  4. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This really isn't true at all.

    Wlad IS well known here ( U.S) and still more known then Wilder . He was going to fight Joshua in Vegas in the rematch because he himself is big name moreso then Joshua at that time ,maybe still is ? You guys are severly underestimating Wlads name recognition in the world . His numbers also aren't that bad ,he felt the need to fight outside the U.S because of far better promotions just like AJ feels in the U.K.

    Wlad would DEFINATLEY come back if he was guaranteed a Wilder fight , Wilder cannot be chased he knows that. Its like trying to catch a chicken on a farm like the Rocky movie....lol
     
  5. LordSouness

    LordSouness Boxing Addict Full Member

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    DAZN probably well aware he was going to turn it down in the first place because he's a big chicken, so they get the happy surprise if he signs, but get to show he's a coward when he turns it down - all while, no doubt, getting Showtime to overpay for said coward. Win, win, win.
     
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  6. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    Certainly got their name in the headlines.

    Maybe in some ways a reverse of the 50m offer, which Wilders team knew Joshua couldn't accept but which allowed them to turn the narrative in their favour.

    I just have this vision of various promoters and networks preparing offers which they know can't be accepted and somehow dreading the day someone replies with 'sure ok then why not?'
     
  7. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    There's a difference between being well known and being a draw and even if he is then do you really think Wilder/Wlad sees Wlad get $40 mill like the DAZN deal is offering him? Money talks and right now DAZN is the one flexing their financial clout.

    Why did Wlad not chase a Wilder fight after the Joshua loss then if that fight really motivated him? At the time all the talk was of him rematching Joshua in Vegas or retiring, no talk of him even contemplating a Wilder fight.
     
  8. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Isn't it against the Ali act to contractually guarantee future fights? so, DAZN cannot actually him the AJ fight, unless they do it outright...which they didn't do. So if he stays on showtime, without signing a deal with them and remaining a free agent, i don't see a duck like everyone else seems to be
     
  9. Holler

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    The money is the guarantee. They don't offer that if they can't deliver Joshua.
     
  10. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know they can deliver him, but i don’t think it can be in the contract that he’ll be fighting AJ after Breazeale, if they’re offering to put Wilder/Breazeale on DAZN first
     
  11. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    Yes, I mean I didn't know the details of the Ali act so that's interesting but in any case I didn't expect them to put AJ's name in a contract because the liklihood is that the final agreement with his team would come after they can come back to him with Wilder's participation, at least in principle.

    The main point is that only an idiot would pay Wilder that money unless AJ was a part of it because the truth is that Wilder isn't worth much, it's just his dumb luck that he has a big punch, a bigger mouth, a devalued but still iconic strap and most crucially of all, a US passport at a time when DAZN need headlines and AJ needs his last belt.
     
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  12. BoxingABC1

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    Not sure i agree with him not being worth much. Would've got a very good payday last time out, now his two options are $20m to fight Breazeale on DAZN or 7 figures to fight Breazeale on Showtime PPV, whether he deserves either is another question but that's what he is "worth".

    Think that's a bit harsh because by the same token you could say its dumb luck that AJ won an Olympic gold to set him on his way to stardom, and you could say it's dumb luck that he got his first world title, everyone needs/has had dumb luck at some point.
     
  13. Brighton bomber

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    Not sure if this deal would fall foul of the Ali act. While it prohibits a broadcaster from gaining future promotional rights on a boxer based on participating in a fight, this isn't really what DAZN are asking for. DAZN aren't saying Wilder must fight Breazeale on DAZN to get the Joshua fight, they are using the Breazeale fight to sweeten the deal with the Joshua fight.

    Plus Wilder hasn't stated this as a reason for turning it down and if he did it would be hypocritical when he's asked Whyte to fight Ortiz to secure a fight with him in the past.
     
  14. Holler

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    It is a bit harsh but he will get over it. Actually I have a lot of time for him, he's done well for himself. Agree about AJ, he was indeed lucky to time his rise with a home Olympics. He's been well marketed since then also.

    However the point is no-one is paying him 20m to fight Breazeale, not even DAZN. They will pay him a sum over several fights culminating in two fights for the undisputed championship of the world against Joshua. They would use the Breazeale fight to build that narrative with the objective of getting as many new sign ups as possible across the 12-18 months it would be stretched out for. Single fights are of no interest to DAZN and Wilder v Breazeale isn't worth 20m to anyone.
     
  15. youcrazyboy

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    Who cares anyway? Fury (and many other non punchers) rocked Wilder, bumsquad will get knocked out in about 2/3 rounds by AJ and his career will be over. Wilder is scared of Whyte too. So he's umming and awwing to get best deal that avoids AJ/Whyte/anyone live. The best fight out there is AJ v Fury to see if Fury can avoid a bomb for 12 rounds. Or Wilder Fury for same reasons.

    It would be quite funny to see Wilder hurt and pull out the windmills...but not worth $100 million...