Reinhardt, I never really thought on this before, but when i saw your post I checked out boxrec to see if there was any scores posted and there was. After 14 rounds they show the officials with scores of 66-60, 66-62 and 67-62 for Ali. Presumably Ali won rounds 13 and 14 as he had big rounds and won them 5-4 on all cards (obviously the 5 point system was in effect). So if we remove those 2 rounds from the scorecards Ali still would have been ahead in scoring by scores of 56-52, 56-54 and 57-54 if my math is correct. Like I said, i never really thought on this before as to who was ahead at the time.
The last 15 rounder televised in the US Jorge Paez vs Calvin Grove I Paez scores 3 KD’s in rd 15 to take a narrow MD 1988-08-04 : Jorge Paez 125¾ lbs beat Calvin Grove 125½ lbs by MD in round 15 of 15 Location: Plaza de Toros Calafia, Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico Referee: Al Rothenberg Judge: Jim Traylor 142-142 Judge: Dave McCullough 143-140 Judge: Robert Gonzalez 142-140 International Boxing FederationFeatherweight Title (2nd defense by Grove) Promoter: Ignacio Huizar (KO Entertainment) Ring Announcer: Rafael Morales Aired On: USA Tuesday Night Fights Notes Grove knocked down three times in the 15th round. First IBF title fight in Mexico. Last 15-round title bout to be televised in the USA. Edit: Paez says this was the last 15 rounder ever fought? Anyone know if that is true? https://www.ringtv.com/545582-best-i-faced-jorge-paez/
None. But, this thread has some merit as title fights were changed from 15 to 12 rounds. They were not changed from 12 to 8.
Yeah, it’s been done before but I still like to wonder what guys that excelled in the 15 round era would not be as great perhaps if they fought in the 12 rd era. Yes, I know that they would adapt differently but it still does not answer for me definitively how that would contrast....likewise I wonder what greats of the 12 round era might just be very good over 15 or what fringe greats might be thought of as great. A similar thread has/can be done on 20 rounders and unlimited rounds.
Thanks,Years ago I was watching the fight doctor talking about the fight and he said he thought Ali was behind , that Joe was taking it to him. Which he was! Thanks for giving the actual scores, Ali won early but Joe was killing him from the 6th through the 12th, I guess these where the same judges that thought Ali beat Norton in their 3rd fight.