[GIF] The Speed and Power of a Joe Louis Punch

Louis himself seems to support your opinion.

"I found out more about Pastor this time.His trainer Freddie Brown had told him before to stick and run,because there was now way he could have slugged it out with me.Now Pastor was just as upset as I was with that bad showing we had before.Pastor really was a slugger;He wanted people to see he wasn't going to run all over the ring looking like he was scared to fight.
Chappie told me to remember and let him bring the fight to me,cut the ring down and for God's sake not to chase him all over the place.Turns out I didnt have to.He came straight to me.I knocked himdown 5 times in the first 2 rounds.But he got in some good punches on me.He was a tough customer until I ko'd him in the 11th round".Joe Louis "My Life".

 

What happened to Louis’ flawless finishing skills in that fight? Sincere question.

 

It seems Pastor came in determined to refute the criticism of "Bobs Bicycling Act." He was looking for redemption ,motivated and fired up .

 

Yawn

 

My reaction exactly, when I read posters carrying on like little kids about their favorite ATG’s amazing “finishing abilities.” Nobody’s perfect.

 

Just confused because I learned in this forum that Louis was the perfect puncher who knocked people out immediately whenever he had them hurt. Comes up in every other fantasy fight involving him, it seems. Didn’t think that a little 180-lb guy would be able to stand his ground and recover from so many clean punches and knockdowns.

 

damn.. short and sweet

 

Pastor put up a good fight in his second fight with Louis, almost impossibly good, after the first two rounds until he ran out of gas at the end. Pastor wanted a third fight with Louis, and he might have gotten it after his big win against Lem Franklin, but for WW2. Bob was encouraged by his performance in the second fight. He believed that he had a chance to defeat Louis in a third fight if he could keep from getting hurt in the early rounds. I doubt that he had a chance, but that is what Pastor believed. He was a courageous guy, but he was too small to ever beat Louis.

 

Exactly.

I'll keep this in mind when I watch Lewis failing to stop Mavrovic or Tyson fluffing around against Blood Green or Quick Tillis.

Nobody's perfect.

 

Seems like more people around here already acknowledge that about Tyson and Lewis. There are a bunch who still seem to think the two of them would run through all the top heavyweights of the last 20 years without breaking a sweat though.

But my specific point in my earlier post was that I’m skeptical about the concept of “finishing abilities” especially in the exaggerated way it gets discussed in reference to certain ATG heavies in this forum.

 

Mate it’s boxing, this sport is fuelled by hyperbole. You routinely see a person described as a one punch KO artist and you look at their record and highlights and see a couple of one punch knockouts and a whole lot more TKO’s and corner stoppages. Most of us are prone to exaggeration when it comes to discussing boxing and our favourites, it’s the nature of fight fans and the sport and adds to the mystique and enjoyment for me.

I will say this about Louis though. How many fighters did he have hurt or down in a fight that managed to recover and take him the distance? I don’t know the exact number but it wouldn’t be bloody many. That’s finishing ability right there.

 

No, it’s Louis being a hard-hitting boxer with fast hands. And fighting a ton of unimpressive challengers. We can explain those results without creating some kind of “finishing ability” trait and using hyperbole to describe it.

Yeah—outlandish hyperbole is par for the course in boxing...and I find it pretty silly. Which is why I call it out from time to time.