Why does lifting weights do nothing for a fighter?

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  1. LeeD1982

    LeeD1982 Active Member Full Member

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    Never mind Football and Tennis, even Golfers strength train these days!

    Even professional snooker players are expected to be physically fit.
     
  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    strength training to improve the naturally needed motion is ideal, lifting weights to build mass in areas not optimal is just an opportunity to both wear and tear, and eat oxygen, both which will lose you fights.

    Boxers have enough strength to knock someone out if they land optimally. Thats their priority.
     
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  3. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    That’s almost purely genetics. Some people never looked ripped, no matter if they lift or not.
     
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  4. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    "sure, dense bones, rigid tendons, fast twitch fibers, etc... are all parts of the equation, but they are less important factors."

    Dense bones gave us Mike Tyson's, fast twitch fibers gave us Deontay Wilder... Roy Jones Jr...

    They are EXTREMELY important. They define champions,and succesful careers are shaped on these genetic gifts.

    Unfortunately you either have them or you don't.

    There is so much science behind this topic that we could exhaust months just talking about it, but for example... denser bone structure has been proven to increase the potential for accrued muscle mass. This has been known in the fitness industry for decades.... hence Mike Tysons natural muscle bound physique since he was a little kid having dense bones, being able to hand with the giant heavies.
     
  5. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah that’s the case in almost every sport. As we get smarter we train differently, boxing is an archaic sport that is still catching up to contemporary sports science. Especially in today’s age of super heavyweights, you can’t get by without being as big and strong as possible in that division.
     
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  6. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Chris Algieri does deep and heavy squats. Still hits like a girl.
     
  7. dealt_with

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    Funny that there’s more than one variable involved in punching power, never would’ve suspected that in something as simple and homogeneous as every human being.
    Ever considered that he might be an even lighter puncher if he didn’t squat?
     
  8. DanishDynamite

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    It has nothing to do with god
     
  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Given that hes got advanced degrees in nutrition he probably knows how to manipulate his energy intake to avoid too much muscle gain.
     
  10. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    dense bones, fast twitch fibers, strength, etc... are found in people all around you. that doesnt make them great punchers, what i went over, does.
     
  11. dealt_with

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    Huh? What does that have to do with anything? Nutrition in general is a very weak science. Also if you have a PhD then it’s in something very specific so he may be a bit clueless when it comes to certain aspects of nutrition anyway.
     
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    You’re so dumb. Technique is number one in any sport. Then with all that being equal, those things mentioned are what makes the vast difference and whether someone is really a puncher or not.
     
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  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    you dont even know where you are in this debate.:facepalm:
    just go away.
     
  14. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    You said they weren't important to making a good fighter or strong puncher, which is ridiculous.

    Not only do these "lesser important" attributues contrubute GREATELY to the greatest fighters and punchers, but also sprinters, throwers and host of others elite ATG athletes.

    You downplayed the importance of those attributes, and I have a real problem with that.

    Technique is one thing, but don't go downplaying physical gifts.
     
  15. dealt_with

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    No, let me explain it for your feeble mind. You think technique is everything. I think technique is the most important thing, then physical differences predicated on that technique make the real difference. Do you understand now?
     
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