Showtime working on deal to pay Wilder more than DAZN - and he won't have to fight Joshua or Fury

It's a solid gamble for Deontay

 

Showtime won't and cannot pay Wilder more than DAZN, especially as the fight won't be on PPV.
Bad move from team Wilder and very short sighted considering the deal offered to a guy no-one really knows, was insanely good.
Good to see ESPN have him as the most popular boxer though, that just enforces the fact that people need to search him on Google because no one knows who the hell he is. Shame it doesn't translate into PPV buys, he could have done with a few more to hit his protected 2m+ for the Fury fight.

 

Agreed if they pay him $20 mill for a non PPV fight it drastically changes all their fighters expectations of what they should be getting and Showtime is a business while it's possible to run at a loss for a short time to try and come out on top of this broadcasters battle it really isn't worth their time as their money would be better spent elsewhere, which is why HBO pulled out of boxing.

 

Offering Deontay $100+ million without Fury and AJ is insane. What choice of opposition is he going to get the $100 million for?

Brezeale, Molina II, Stiverne III?

 

Nichols II but is suspect Wilder team would do a running man after they try to make up some false drug test results like they did to Povetkin..

 

Can't believe ppl still think wilder is avoiding to fight Joshua because he turn down 100 million dollars 3 fights deal on dazn. Finkle said the reason wilder didn't accept the deal is because dazn and hearn refuse to answer finkle question about how much is Joshua getting if wilder vs Joshua happens? I know some will say (Why does wilder cares about what Joshua is getting?) Because at the end of the day boxing is s business and there negotiations.

Let's say wilder signs a 100 million deals for the 3 fights which is like around 33 million in each of the 2 fights Joshua? What happen if wilder team finds out Joshua in each of the two fights vs wilder is getting 80 or 90 million? Is that like blind sided because Joshua is getting way way more money especially if one of the fights is in USA? Does anybody really knows how to negotiate? Think about it.

 

Of all the excuses I've heard from team Wilder since they refused the 100 mill this is the only one that is remotely acceptable. They should have told team Wilder what the split would be. But I think they didn't for a reason, it won't be 50/50 and anything less than that would of been used as an excuse to pull out.

But having said that, Wilder does not deserve 50%, the Fury fight as well as it did was still less than what Joshua generates in the UK alone against average opposition and dwarfed by what Joshua's unification fights generate in the UK and that's not even including overseas revenue or the live gates. If it comes down to Wilder still holding out for 50% that just him pricing himself out and it's still a duck.

 

We agree that wilder dont deserve a 50 split but he deserve atleast in 40%. The thing is if wilder accept the deal right? What happen if wilder team finds out Joshua is getting way way more like 80 or 90 percent of the split if these 2 fighters fight? That will be basically be a slap in the face of team wilder. They have a right to know what the opponents is getting plus the ppv bonus and all that.

See that's the thing ppl here that says wilder is ducking Joshua don't get.

 

This argument is damage limitation 101 designed to deflect criticism from Wilder.

The leaked offer stipulated 20m for Wilder v Breazeale and then 40m for each of two fights with AJ. It's blindingly obvious that AJ will be getting more, but given Hearn had already offered Wilder 40% it also looks pretty obvious how much DAZN are putting into the pot. If Wilder is on 40m per fight, AJ will likely be on 60 and coupled with the 30m he's reportedly been offered for the Miller fight we have a total pot for Wilder of 100m and for Joshua $150m

The reality is that for the pot to reach those levels in a Showtime PPV they'd have to do what, 2m? DAZN are offering above market value to both fighters, more for AJ sure, but in terms of what these guys can command away from this fight Wilder is getting by far the biggest percentage increase. Joshua is making twice his previous purse, Wilder maybe 4 times his.

But posting these arguments I've realised is largely futile.

 

What PPV bonus?
There's no PPV on DAZN you ******, learn before you post.

 

Thing is he was offered 40% before the Fury rematch and his response was he didn't care what Hearn offered, not even 50% was going to get him to fight anyone else but Fury.

As for what Joshua was getting, Hearn said in a recent interview Wilder was basically getting 50% of the US pot for that DAZN deal. Now of course Joshua would likely make $20-30 mill plus from UK and overseas rights on top of that. So you're looking at a 60/40 to 70/30 kind of split.

Also what is Wilder doing to make the fight right now? Answer, nothing, no counter offer, no real negotiations, not willing to budge from 50/50 in US, on a Showtime/PBC card. Joshua has now seemingly agreed the first fight happens in the US, he's made numerous offers, each one better than the last, Hearn has tried setting up meetings only for Finkel not the show up. When one side is doing all the work and the other is doing nothing but talk, then it's pretty clear only one side wants the fight.

 

Actually there's still showtime ppv you knucklehead. It depends of how the deal can do considering wilder is still ties with haymon who owns showtime and fox. Dazn can work with showtime. I would bet on this...if wilder vs Joshua happens? It's going to be on ppv especially on showtime ppv.

 

Are we talking about the same hearns who said wilder vs fury ppv buys of 325k was a failure because he said whyte vs parker ppv buys was around 1 million buys? LMFAO The funny thing is hearns forget to mention what was the cost of whyte vs parker and compare to what cost wilder vs fury. Hearns words has proven he's not to be taking seriously.

 

But the thing you miss the point is when finkle said he didn't care what was hearns offer was because team wilder only focused on is getting the fury rematch before the Joshua fight. That was wilder only mind set. But since fury change his mind by signing with Bob arum? It change alot which Joshua already scheduled to fight fat balloon Miller.