Top 10 Asian boxers

1. Manny Pacquaio
2. Fighting Harada
3. Pancho Villa
4. Flash Elorde
5. Jung Koo Chang
6. Yuh Myung Woo
7. Khaosai Galaxy
8. Maseo Ohba
9. Nonito Donaire
10. Yoko Gushiken

Next 10 (no order): Pongsaklek Wonjongkam, Chartcahi Chionoi, Pone Pingpetch, Jiro Watanabe, Hiroyuki Ebihara, Shozo Saijo, Ceferino Garcia, Sot Chitalada, Sun Kil Moon, Naoya Inoue

Inoue is special and will climb into the top 10, possibly 5 one day. I saw him live when he fought here under Rungvisai-Gonzalez II and his power had a different look and feel to it. He’s one of the outstanding punchers I’ve seen live.

 

Manny
Harda
Villa
Galaxy
Chang

 

1.Manny Pacquiao

2.Fighting Harada

3.Nonito Donaire

4.Sung Kil Moon

5.Sor Rungvisai

6.Jung Koo Chang

7.Hozumi Hasegaw

8.Khaosai Galaxy

9.Vic Dachinyan

10.Veeraphol Sahaprom

 

Khaosai.

 

I don’t see Ohba, Galaxy, Gushiken>Ebihara and Kingpetch at all.

 

Arguably has the better wins although Khaosai has him beat on volume of course. Khaosai hit harder, Khaokor significantly more skilled and versatile.

 

None of us mentioning Little Dado or Little Pancho (myself included) is a bit disconcerting.

 

Small Montana?

 

And there’s another.....

 

Chong-pal park?

Did this result come out of a 10-minute Boxrec search?

Park wouldn't have even been a world titlist if IBF did not emerge. IBF was initially a trash organization that en-titled a lot of Korean fighters for essentially cash exchange.

 

Anyways, my list would be:

1. Fighting Harada

2. Jung-Koo Chang

3. Pancho Villa

4. Manny Pacquiao

There is a huge gap between #4 and whoever would be #5.

Maybe Masao Ohba would be up there if he didn't meet Salvador Sanchez fate in an auto accident - though frankly I think his early death has over-rated him in some eyes.

I am also uncomfortable placing Villa, as I tend to be wary of ranking fighters who fought before my time.

 

Pacquiao is clearly #1. He set the bar high in terms of accomplishments and recognition. He's an obvious pick as the best to come from Asia.

Pacquiao
Fighting Harada
Jung Koo Chang
Khaosai Galaxy
Flash Elorde
Pancho Villa
Nonito Donaire
Masao Ohba
Pongsalklek Wonjongkam
Sot Chitalada

Was thinking of adding Yuri Arbachakov but I mostly consider him Russian.

 

I am fine with you ranking Pacquiao over Chang; ranking him over Harada is a different matter altogether. Harada - like Chang - was untouchable at his prime, in his natural weight. Contrary to the impression of BoxRec warriors, the Kingpatch return loss was a highway robbery; and the Esparza fight was at bantamweight. Perhaps the issue is that I put an inordinate stock over "peak" years and potential head-to-head bout results over stuff like longevity. In contrast, how was Pacquiao at his best weight? If you consider 126-130 at his best, he had two disputed decisions against Marquez that could've gone either way; and he won two out of three versus Morales. I cannot say with certainty Pacquiao was the best fighter in the world at his best weight in his prime. I can say that definitively with Harada and Chang. Nobody was really close in either case.

 

P.S. This is why BoxRec - or the folks who rely on it exclusively - **** me off.

BoxRec says Harada lost twice at flyweight - when one of the loss was a typical Thailand special, and the other wasn't even a flyweight fight.

Know the damn context.