Eder Jofre boxing skills outdated?

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  1. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Love this !! I hadn't see this clip yet.. What a fighting machine. Born in a gym with that dedication is a scary combination.. Thanks for posting
     
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  2. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Excellent..love it..thanks for that gem
     
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  3. reznick

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    But you’ve heard people say that boxing technique evolved after half a century. Or that the skills of boxers today have evolved past their predecessors.

    This isn’t hard.
     
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  4. reznick

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    So then, generally speaking, boxers from 50-60 years ago were just as technically apt as the ones today?
     
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  5. ChrisJS

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    I don’t know if you saw this but I put it on YouTube with English subtitles.
    This content is protected
     
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  6. McGrain

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    It depends on what you mean.

    If you mean i've heard people say that boxing technique has evolved between 1890 and 1940, i'd say i've probably heard that, yeah.

    If you're trying to say that boxing technique has evolved as such in the last fifty years - so since 1970 - I haven't read that here, no.

    Given that Jofre retired in 1976, it seems most likely that you are talking about the last fifty years. That prescribed my response.

    So I'd argue that you're making it that hard.

    What is it you're trying to say?
     
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  7. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    50-60 years ago.
    And if thats the case then we've had some differing experiences.
    Unless the prolific modernistas here agree that it hasn't.
    If they're willing to contend that boxing technique hasn't evolved over the last 5-6 decades, I'll gladly admit I used a strawman.

    It's right there, in plain English.

    It's not hard.
     
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  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You've altered your argument here, to sixty years. I'll go with your original 50.

    Can you link me to any meaningful threads or posts by established members which state how boxing technique has changed since 1970? I'll also accept 1969.
     
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  9. Seamus

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    Who is arguing that boxing has evolved, skillwise, in the past 50 years? Seriously.

    One might argue that the level of athleticism, especially at heavyweight, has increased... Even at that, guys like Ali and Foreman, who were both active 50 years ago, would do just fine today.
     
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  10. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Man Chris, thanks for posting. Just finished it, what a treat! Jofre's accuracy and that power in his body attack is off the friggin charts,,, determination and heart too.. A cold Tecate with Jofre film down here in sunny Mexico, Life is good!
     
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  11. ChrisJS

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    Nice! What part of Mexico are you in currently? Beautiful weather here today. BBQ some shrimps and throwing back Dos XX the rest of the day.
     
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  12. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most skilled or one of the most skilled of all time? Really? What film are you watching? Poor footwork, wide open when throwing those round, telegraphed punches.
     
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  13. Seamus

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    You don't have to be "textbook" to be an ATG. In fact, it is more the norm to not be. He is very fluid, efficient and balanced, even at this age. It's a skillset, that mixed with innate athleticism and fighting spirit, worked then and would work today.
     
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  14. mrkoolkevin

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    Neither?
     
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  15. reznick

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    Do you think boxing technique has evolved since the 1960's-70's?
     
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