Eder Jofre boxing skills outdated?

Since the 1960s top boxers generally look "modern" IMO. The first "modern" fight I have seen on video was Ruben Carter - George Benton, in the early 60s. They both kept their elbows in, they had good footwork, balance, they used their shoulders to protect their chins when they punched, they looked "modern." I'm sure that wasn't the absolute first, just the oldest fight I've seen with two "modern" looking boxers.

Today, there is an emphasis on angles and pivots. Angles/pivots aren't new, but IMO, trainers/coaches today are putting more emphasis on using them. I suspect that the success of Mike Tyson made coaches/trainers more aware of their benefit and many of the trainers/coaches today are contemporaries of Mike Tyson. There are also a lot of fighters who are using their strong hand forward and there are some who are switching southpaw to orthodox throughout the fight. That may or may not become more common depending on the success of the people who are doing it. There will always be changes in boxing, but the best fighters of the 1960s that I have seen on video had good mechanics.

 

If Jofre can look that good over 50 yrs from his time in the ring, imagine what he was? And no his skills are not outdated. If anything the sport of boxing has regressed the last 20yrs.

 

dude is 1000 years old and in incredible shape. this is a testament to his greatness

 

I've never seen it stated by any serious poster that the boxers of 50 years ago are outdated in their technique compared to todays fighters.
Can you show us these threads/posts that say this?
Fighters of that era would include
Bob Foster
Muhammad Ali
Emille Griffith
Luis Rodriguez
Jose Napoles
Carlos Monzon
Roberto Duran
Ken Buchanan
Dick Tiger
Carlos Ortiz
Niccolino Locche
Howard Winstone
Johnny Famechon
Vincente Saldivar
Lionel Rose
Walter McGowan
Fighting Harada
As well as the man you mentioned Eder Jofre whom I rate the number one all time at Bantam.
Where are the deficiences in these named boxers skills?
Who has criticized their abilities?
It seems to me you are constructing another spurious argument to further some agenda that will soon become apparent as this thread unfolds, [if should it do so.]

My Verdict Dead In The Water.

 

Finally the agenda is revealed!

 

A-G-E-N-D-A

 

Have you watched Harold Johnson Pat?

I would say he fits the criteria your looking for, and he came before Carter (and was better).

Also a pleasure to watch.

It really depends on the individual fighter as well, especially when you're getting to 'modern' fighters. For example, I wouldnt pick any flyweight or bantamweight today to beat Fighting Harada.

 

Never heard anyone say seriously the boxers of 50 years ago are inferior to those of today.

 

Also Pat, I would like to know, what do you think about older fighters such as Tony Canzoneri who purposely boxed very unorthodox against their opponents?

 

Skill-wise, what is it that today's boxers are lacking - compared to the generation before them?

 

Boxing technique hasn't changed in about 90 or 100 years, and very few people who actually watch the films have ever argued that it has.

 

...... unlike, say, Carl Froch.

 

Yep. I’ve put him on ignore.

 

Instinct and technique And that only comes with untold hrs in the gym and fighting/sparring. All the fancy weight training, fancy diets , don't mean squat if you cant't actually fight. At least not on the level of greats from the past .