Wladimir Klitschko vs Riddick Bowe - in their primes - Who wins?

At staying out of harm's way? Absolutely.

Footwork isn't a linear quality. It's dependent on what type of fight you want to make it. If Wlad wanted to keep you at the end of his jab, good luck getting past it.

Apologies for butting in BTW.

 

Wlad's H2H ability is underrated imo. H2H there are a few better, yes, but people talk as if Wlad gets routinely smashed by Bowe in a couple of rounds and it's nonsense. Wlad is going to put hurt on Bowe even if he gets dragged into a war and loses. Longevity at top level is a big accomplishment and it doesn't have to be invented in Wlad's case.
Longevity comes into a career when we assess them.

 

he does get routinely smashed up when he doesnt face a noone.

his h2h ability is overrated without a doubt.

his longevity is OUTSTANDING. he had ELITE, even ATG longevity. That is undeniable., since he beat Pov when he was 36, few champs carried their prime to that age.
Perhaps it is something to do with his personal knowledge of sports science.

 

That's if he's able to land his jab. I don't think he can, not enough to open things up for him.

The young Bowe's jab was good in isolation (fast, snappy, powerful, good range) but he didn't have the footwork to truly use it to the best of his advantage, nor the concentration levels or boxing mentality to make it a consistent weapon for him.

Wlad's jab was so good because it was allied perfectly with his footwork and he knew exactly when to throw it, while hiding it behind feints and other distractions like parries and blindsides.

A fighter like Bowe might be able to match jabs with him for a few rounds on athletic ability alone, but sooner or later he's going to start getting lulled into Wlad's game and coming off second best. That's when Wlad would land the boom and shake him to his boots.

Bowe's only real chance would be to go for broke from the opening bell and hope to catch Wlad cold. That's not how he tended to fight though, not against bigger men.

 

He does not get routinely smashed up when he faces a no one. The only one who routinely smashed him up as you put it was Corrie Sanders, a dangerous left handed puncher. Everyone else who beat him, apart from Fury, was in a war or he knocked them down.
There are ATG's with better H2H ability than Wlad, obviously, otherwise I'd have him higher than 10 in the HW rankings.

 

sorry but i wont accept lies.

Its better to go with the truth, he was not great h2h but great longevity wise.

 

Thats not true , not true one bit and it tells me you are either making stuff up or you just don't understand the basic fundamentals of boxing.
If Wlad had perfect co -ordination between hand and foot , he'd be able to move seamlessly around the ring while popping out a jab.
Wlad cannot throw more than two jabs on the front foot and cannot jab going backwards , at all. He can't box on the backfoot full stop.

Wlad had a stiff jab while he was set and the plodder walking straight into usually made it look better than it was. If an opponent got past one of his jabs , he had no other jab to follow up with and would immediately look for the clinch.
Vialti was a lot better in that area than Wlad was.

Some alarming stats.

Bowe landed more jabs with a greater accuracy on Holyfield than Wlad landed on Peter.
53% accuracy for Bowe with 34% accuracy for Wlad. Thats bad considering Holyfield was extremely athletic and harder to hit than flat footed face first plodder SamPeter.

If Wlads jab was so good , he wouldn't have such an embarrassing stat like that to show for it.

 

22 year old Wlad lost to Puritty in a fight he was dominating and one he gassed in late.
Wlad got smashed by big punching Sanders in 2 rounds.
Wlad lost to Brewster in a fight he was dominating and had Brewster down and rocking and reeling. He won the rematch.

Wlad then didn't lose for another 11 years.

39 years old Wlad lost to Fury in a bad display by WK.
41 year old Wlad after a 17 month lay off lost to Joshua in 11 rounds after knocking AJ down in a good, exciting fight.

These are the facts. No one has to lie so a poor choice of words by you.

Wlad is regarded as an ATG champion by many fans of boxing and good judges of the sport so whether you acknowledge that is irrelevant.

 

Truth!

 

he was smashed up by middlers yes.

 

its true, its just a range finder for his other fist, its not a weapon.

 

I’ll concede that it was a ramrod when he had his feet set. It’s his mentality that does it for me

 

he doesnt use it for damage, for sure, and its a weak as a point taker, unless u got the judge on your side told to makr you up everytime u paw it out.

 

WK lost a couple he should not have lost.

It's not telling "lies" if people have different opinions about boxing, ok? A bit dishonorable of you.

A 64-5 win-loss record is pretty good considering he had a 20 year ATG career.

 

you are doing it again, ATG career isnt getting smashed out by middlers repeatedly in your prime.