Fury Schwarz: Worst high level HW follow up ever?

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  1. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Care to elaborate
     
  2. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Do we know that Schwarz is worse than Breazeale, Martin and Molina yet ?
     
  3. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    We don't, as there's a chance he'll turn out to be the best heavyweight that ever lived, because he is completely unknown and hasn't fought anyone yet. But just like Cornish before the Joshua "fight", we can kinda predict his level beforehand.
     
  4. Unforgiven

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    Well, yes, I think I can kinda predict his level ...... he's very probably crap.
    But maybe only as crap as Breazeale or Molina, which is bad enough ..... possibly as bad as Gary Cornish or Arnold Gjerjaj ......
     
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  5. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    It's really not a good fight for Tyson Fury's Las Vegas debut.
    It would make more sense to fight him in Germany .... or London, at the Royal Albert Hall or Wembley Arena (definitely not the stadium though).
     
  6. Loudon

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    What are you waffling on about?

    When has Tyson pretended to fight those guys?

    Boxing is a business.

    He's just signed a multi fight deal.

    For his first fight of the deal, 3 opponents were put forward to him and his team.

    It's just a keep busy fight with more to follow.

    Ran like a woman?

    No. It's called boxing you absolute simpleton.

    Nobody has called him a legend.

    Don't even bother replying to me.

    You obviously have an agenda and are very dim.

    Run along.
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Another one who doesn't get it.

    Whyte is going the mandatory route. His next fight will be a tune up.

    Parker is rebuilding.

    Povetkin is trying to fight Usyk, but he may have another fight beforehand.

    No, Tyson doesn't want them at the moment. Why would he? He has just signed a multi fight deal with a keep busy fight, before hopefully fighting a rematch with Wilder, before ultimately AJ.

    Wilder is going to fight Brazeale next.

    At this point in time, Hearn does NOT want AJ to fight Tyson. He wants to showcase him in the U.S. against Miller.

    Boxing is a business, where all the major players play chess with each other.

    Tyson can't just suddenly go out and fight who he wants.

    It doesn't work like that.

    Schwarz was one of 3 opponents who put forward by ESPN, for his first of 5 fights.

    Do you understand that?

    Nobody needs to criticise this fight.

    ESPN want him to take this fight.

    The important things are: he's fit, healthy, and he's obligated to fight numerous times a year.

    Complain if he's still fighting Schwarz level guys a year down the line.

    This was to be expected.
     
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  8. SeanK

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    The p4p goat Zelenoff gave up so much weight, height and reach in that legendary bout.
     
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  9. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes.
     
  10. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ESPN have the money to match him with decent opponent instead of not wanting to risk him losing his firt fight and putting against De Mori level cannon fodder.
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    His first opponent was always going to be an opponent like this. Like I've said, complain after the 5 fights if he hasn't fought any top opposition.

    Just be happy that he's healthy and back in the ring.

    Even if you're not a fan of his, it's better for the division.
     
  12. CarlChilders

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    You are a Brit so the only simpleton is you. I have a agenda? Says the Brit who only likes Tyson Fury because he is a Brit too. Who cares if Fury signed a 3 fight deal?

    If you think landing 86 punches in 12 rounds against a old Wlad is impressive then you are beyond being a simpleton. But again you are a Brith so this isn't shocking. If you think landing 84 punches in 12 rounds against the crude Deontay Widler is impressive then maybe you should stick to soccer. Tyson Fury ran. If you want to see somebody out box somebody then watch Larry Holmes fight Gerry Cooney. Holmes landed more than 86 and 84 punches in a 12 round fight. Hell even fat obese George Foreman landed 188 punches againt a prime 28 year Holyfield. I feel sorry for you Brits. Clearly the least intelligent of all of the European nations.
     
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  13. sauhund II

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    In a nut shell , you are spot on.................plus most of those "fans" are more concerned with the purse then the actual fight.

    Schwarz is a total bum, a non entity , full stop.........

    Miller is a contender but miles ahead of Schwarz

    Breazale is also a borderline contender who still is better than Schwarz

    Basically , the top three are all facing cannon fodder but Fury is facing the worst of the worst cannon fodder.

    And I am going out on a limb here and predict that Fury will never ever face Wilder again..........so Fury, please let me eat crow., with sugar on top.
     
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  14. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    Tyson Fraudery will never fight a top contender again, until the very end of his career as a cash out.

    This is Khan vs Garcia all over again. Khan never went anywhere near any of his rivals in his division again after what Danny subjected him to

    Once you get knocked out like Fraudery did, you're never the same again.

    People seem to think getting your head bounced off the canvas and rendered unconscious, is like some video game where the character bounces back up and continues on as if nothing ever happened.

    He's never been dropped like that befoe. Flash knock downs yes, but that simple 1-2 combo put the fear of god and death into Tyson that he will never fight anyone with power again

    Frudery may as well now create his own division, the Super Scrub Heavyweight division, because I promise that there will be a loads more unknown entities that will be unearthed by Fraudery.
     
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  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Another post containing NOTHING.

    What's happened to this forum?

    You're so desperate to hate, you've been reduced to quoting the punch stats.

    Ha! You're pathetic.

    I'm sorry that he didn't throw more and win in the manner in which you wanted him to.

    Back in the real world, It doesn't matter how many punches were thrown.

    Yes, it was impressive how he reduced Wlad's output and had him non commital. The same guy went out and almost beat Joshua 18 months later.

    Yes, it was impressive how after 3 years of inactivity, he had a couple of warm ups before getting up off of the canvas to beat Wilder.

    I don't have to rewatch Holmes-Cooney, because that was a fight with 2 completely different fighters, who had 2 completely different styles.

    Don't feel sorry for me chief. Life's great.

    When Tyson rematches Wilder and beats him, I'll take great delight in bumping this thread to laugh at your pathetic posts.

    Don't bother replying, I'm not wasting anymore time on you.
     
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