Wladimir Klitschko vs Riddick Bowe - in their primes - Who wins?

you forgot "and ATG top ten HW".

and forgot "failed to contend corrie sanders now retired."

and bowe won. and corrie won.

there is a difference. like the frekin grand canyon theres a difference.

 

He respected him before he died too. You have reading problems. Unless you think Sanders' interview was conducted through a medium.

Even if Vitali was 0-100, that has no bearing on his opinion that the best man he'd faced was Sanders. Logic is not your strong point is it?

Of course (heh) Vitali beat:

Herbie Hide (that great win of Bowe's) like a drum and KO'd him almost right away.

I guess Bowe never really hit very hard.

Larry Donald (that great win of Bowe's) and stopped him cold whereas Bowe wasnt able to.

Bowe musta been somewhat featherfisted. Right?

That's because he dodged the best fighters (Lewis would have destroyed him) and because he picked mainly on little guys that had no punch.

He wasn't shot. He'd just come off a win streak beating your legend Holyfield. He wasn't shot. Golota was just too damn good for him. Golota destroyed his jab and beat the snot out of him. After those two fights Bowe had to read the instruction manual on how to make burgers.

That's because you DKSAB. Sanders would have lit a big galoot with no defence like Bowe, up like a christmas tree.

 

Only idiots like Carl Childers and that parasite dildovelvet try to dismiss Sanders.

Here is a guy with a TON of experience who fought both Joshua and Sanders and says Sanders Power was on another level...

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One thing nobody mentions is heart.

Bowe had a heart the size of Brasil. He proved that in the second Golota fight, where he absorbed a frightful beating in the second rd, gave it all in the following two rds (almost stopping Golota) then was a walking corpse for the remainder of the fight, getting knocked down again in the 5th.

The guy had absolutely nothing left, he was knocked 2 feet back from jabs, and HE STILL would try to fight back. It cost him a few brain cells, yet came out the winner when nobody would have given him a glimmer of a hope at the start of the 9th rd.

 

Lol!!! Triggered the **** out of you didn’t I??! Good.

I guess you aren’t going to mention that Joshua gained an obscene amount of solid weight in a very short period of time after the Olympics. Wlad didn’t I guess you aren’t going to mention that Charles Martin was a title fight too huh? Along with MOLINA! Lol! But you’ll bring up Jefferson and the others.

I guess you aren’t going to mention Wladimir didn’t get dropped ONCE at his best from age 30-36 and it took a roided up UKAD protected **** to drop him. AT 41!! Lol Ya won’t mention Wlad lost less rounds than Bowe did in the Holyfield fights alone. Lol! You’re not going to mention Wlads amateur credentials compared to Bowes and also Joshua’s for that matter. Guess you won’t mention Emanuel Steward saying Wlad was the most talented heavyweight he had seen. Even said similar while WITH Lewis.

Olympic Gold Medal (Earned no hometown bull****

23 Title Defenses (None thrown in trash)

11 year Reign

GREAT ambassador of the sport with no criminal past! Never teed off and cheap shot anyone at press conferences either.

Very intelligent, educated and did a TON for charity.

Wlad >>>>>>>>>> Bowe and Joshua. DEAL WITH IT

 

why you using two bowe wins over golota to try and indicate bowe wasnt good enough to beat golota. Not occurred to you even that Golota was hurting Bowe by cheating excessivelly hence the stoppages.

Man, some mfs always gotta try ice-skating uphill.

 

no. hes just replying to your post. Its what you are doing now replying to his.

 

Valuev was always crap. Chagaev beat him then lost every round and got TKOed by Wlad a short time after. Evander also beat Valuev but lost to Ibragimov, who again lost every round to Wlad. Then Haye beat Valuev and lost nearly every round to Wlad. See a pattern there?

Bowe struggled to land a glove on Donald for rounds. He even dropped his arms in frustration and begged Donald to fight him because he was so useless at closing him down. That was what happened when fighters refused to oblige Bowe and fight on their own terms. He was forced to plod after them like a sad clown in the hope that they'd stand still long enough to get clocked by one of his sloppy haymakers and allow him to go home early and gorge himself on cheeseburgers.

Donald made Bowe look foolish. Wlad would obliterate him.

 

Why not? He was always open to jabs, and wasn't hard to tie up. Donald and Golota proved that much.

Using Holyfield as a blueprint for how he'd beat Wlad is... curious.

 

Fighting Wlad with no intention to protect your chin when you don't have astounding speed or power is not a smart tactic. You're basically hoping he gasses out before he KOs you, and after 2005 Wlad began to pace himself a lot better.

Wlad fought to protect his chin, yes, but why does that lower his chances against Bowe, or anyone else? He still won rounds, still got TKOs, while doing so.

Bowe on the other hand lost rounds to chinny cruiserweights and got brain damage before he was thirty. Exciting sure, but again, no bearing on H2H ability.

 

tkos against bums and cripples sure.

 

Bowe to easy to hit to take Wlad’s punches.

 

I expected as much. If Valeuv was crap , then it was a crap era , which it was.

Prime undefeated Chageav beat Valuev in a close fight , doing slightly better than a shot to bits Larry Donald.

Holyfield did not beat Valeuv. If you wanna make up results that did not happen , then im going to claim Donald beat Valeuv , which then makes Bowe's victory over prime undefeated Donald look even better. See how that works?
Don't reduce yourself to hyperbolic trolling in order to make a point.
Neither Donald or Holyfield beat Valeuv.

Iggy beat a 45 year old Holyfield , big whoop. He barely hurt him in 12 rounds and won by landing 2 to old man Holyfields 1. FOUR years earlier Holyfield was battered and stopped by James Toney. Holyfield getting title shots during the K era at 46 years old shows how great he was in his prime.

This is played out. Bowe shut Donald out and landed many a hurtful shot off his head. Sad clown??Cheeseburgers?? Clearly this is now just a case of bashing Bowe. All reasonable debate has gone out the window. I see this happen all the time when somebody feels defeated.

Jennings won more rounds against Wlad than Donald did against Bowe.

Only very few Wlad opponents had the legs to use movement against him. Jennings , Iggy , Williamson and Fury.

Haye didn't have anywhere near the quality of footwork Donald had and what did Wlad do to him ?? Nothing.
With Fury he didn't know in what direction to punch , so he just didn't punch at all.

The basic amateurish footwork and upper body movement of Jennings made Wlad look average and ineffective.

Half the arena left when Wlad could barely land a glove on Iggy.

Larry was credited with pulling an Ali on Bowe. Wlad got dropped and looked like he was on the way to a loss when he fought a guy pulling a third rate Ali impression. He's lucky he was able to use a little scratch on his forehead as an excuse to pull out of the fight because Williamson's movement was clearly giving him major problems.
Manny said to him in the corner - don't worry Wlad , he's no Ali , he can't move like this all night.. lol .

So no . Wlad would in no way shape or form , would come close to even dropping Larry Donald , never mind obliterate him. His record proves that beyond dispute.
Wlad would not have been able to stalk and land hard shots on fleet footed Donald like Bowe was, or any boxer who moved and used the ring well for that matter. Those are the observable facts.

 

No , he illegally cliched to protect his chin. Big difference there. When you spend 80% of rounds locked into a clinch , chances of beating an ATG inside fighter like Bowe are next to zero.