do you see similarities between lomachenko and calzaghe?

the hakkar fight was a replacement for when negotiations with calzaghe halted? this is a fact that you and pals you "liked" have written.

the oscar fight came the year after the replacement for the calzaghe fight. this vexes u greatly.

 

Hakkar was a nothing fight that nobody but Hakkar wanted, a disgraceful debacle.

The only reason it took place was that it was BHop's mandatory for his IBF title.

No leverage needed whatsoever.

Hakkar was lucky to get the payday.

Any payday.

 

and it was still the fight that replaced a possible bout with calzaghe. and it was in the year preceding the bout with oscar.

you cannot change these years my friend. they are 2003 and 2004, set in stone, and undeniably, blatantly and invariably, exactly consecutive.

 

Glad to see you agree that it was years now. About time you came around to the facts.

 

Bernard fought Hakkar 9 months after he priced himself out of the Calzaghe fight.

And after another 9 months, Bernard fought Joppy.

And after another six months, he fought Allen for a third time. (Oh to have been at ringside for that thriller !)


And finally, 2.25 years after Bernard priced himself out of the Calzaghe fight, he fought Oscar.


Try to keep up, Herol !

 

and still it remains, the replacement for the "cazaghe fight" was the year preceding Oscar.


It would be pointless for me to say it is set in stone again...becos it will never change.


i shall leave u to further confuse a negotiation with an actual fight date in your head. But rest assured to everyone here, they are different.

i notice you still write "calzaghe fight" for a fight that wasnt set. U even had me do it once. ....rest assured the ONLY hopkins calzaghe fight was when hopkins was 43 years old.

 

At least he gave us that interview with Larry Merchant tho !

 

So ?

What has that to do with anything ?

Still it remains that he didn't fight Oscar till years after he scuttled the Calzaghe fight.

Here's how great BHop's negotiating and leverage were.

In the three fights he fought after scuttling the $3million Calzaghe bout, Bernard earned

800,000 v Hakkar
350,000 v Joppy
1,125,000 v Allen

For a total of 2,275,000

Some negotiator he was !


Now that you mention the Oscar angle which, as we have seen, was some years after July, 2002, it's also possible BHop was actually worried about getting another loss on his record. That would have taken some of the shine off an Oscar-BHop bout.

I always assumed that Bernard ducked out on grounds of greed.

It is also possible it was a combination of greed and fear.

 

Loma is easy to hit??????

 

That interview was far more entertaining than the fight !

 

negotiation, not fight.

you continue to confuse the two. i can see why, it allows u to claim there is a gap of years between hopkins actual fight and oscar, when they are actually in consecutive years.

its 100% clear that you are confusing them deliberately. there is nothing wrong with being wrong, friend, dont take it so hard.

 

It is a fact that there was a gap of years between Bernard scuttling the Calzaghe fight and him fighting little Oscar. Fact.

 

there was no calzaghe fight date set. it could have been about to be set in 2004 for all u know. You will never know the date of that fight, becos it wasnt set. U argue with an illusion.

u continue to ignore the difference between negotiation and an actual fight. I can see why - because u r a calzaghe fan, and his career was largely based on pretending to fight someone good then selecting a bum instead. U need to maintain this argument to pretend that he never did what he almost always did.

 

Fast, white, southpaw, champs? If I were ever expert enough to train a fighter id just hand them two tapes, one of Joe and one of Loma. I'd tell them just go home and do as much as you can from a technical standpoint as the little Ukranian. The Welshman -- DONT MIMIC A THING!! If they came to my gym the next day and started slapping like Calzaghe id **** a brick and retire.

 

None of that matters to the actual facts of the case.

Bernard entered into negotiations to fight Joe.
Bernard wanted a career high purse (3 million) and the fight to be in the US.
Joe agreed to both conditions

Then, after Joe agreed to both demands, Bernard changed his demand to 6 million, thus scuttling a far more important and lucrative fight than the three fights Bernard actually fought over the next two years.

It's fairly straightforward.

Simple enough that I would have though even someone of your very limited intellect could grasp it.