Top 5 Greatest Fighters

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  1. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Welcome back! What were you even booted for?

    Alsooooo

    1a. SRR
    1b. Harry Greb
    3. Louis
    4. Langford
    5. Marciano

    Don't worry Ali is at 6
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Not bad, and a cool idea. But I'd swap Robinson for Greb and Harvey for Kid Lewis,
    That's just me tho
     
  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Cheers man, I was booted for language, I think it was what I said to Ras. But ah well that's done with.
    That list is far from my own, but what's criteria?
    Also I'm pretty sure I have Ali very high up myself, moreso that others do anyway
     
  4. BundiniBlack

    BundiniBlack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I would breakdown my criteria as probably 75% resume
    20% longevity/consistency
    5% H2H

    Floyd's resume just is not great. His top wins dont measure up to the guys listed or many others for that matter. But he is maybe the GOAT in terms of longevity/consistency so he still makes it in to the top 15
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Eh. I disagree that His résumé is lesser than Jones, but each to their own. I think Hopkins is the best for longevity (or Moore). I do agree that Leonard has a better résumé tho. Floyd has no win as good as an old Hagler, let alone a prime Duran or Hearns.
     
  6. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Dominance, competition beaten, weight disparities overcome, situational disadvantages overcome, longevity

    Dominance and competition beaten are the two most important IMO. Also, longevity is overrated
     
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    In merely alphabetical order for the time being as I'm planning on trying to order them properly in the near future: Armstrong, Charles, Greb, Langford, Robinson. There's a chance that one, maybe two of those names could drop out of my five once I've properly considered it.
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I love the ordering system.
    Also great 5, like the Charles mention
     
  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Cool, is the competition beat name based? Or at the time?
    I just can't see Marciano that High (unless you put loads on Dominance, coz Marciano and Louis might be the two most dominate champions ever) but hey it's your list.
     
  10. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Henry Armstrong
    3. Willie Pep
    4. Muhammad Ali...and...(drum roll, please)
    5. Artur Grigorian
     
  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Damn I was expecting to see Primo and Ibeabuci but good call on that Last one
     
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    88Chris05 Active Member Full Member

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    This must be a joke. Grigorian? Come on. Everyone knows he's at least top three.
     
  13. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Believe it or not i consider Marciano's competition beaten pretty good, or at least above average.

    Loads of dominance. Literally only undefeated heavyweight champ (y'know, the weight class who's tagline is "where 1 punch can end it all"), AND the highest KO%.

    Not to mention he overcame pretty much every challenge in boxing, started late, shortest reach in HW history, cut up, behind on points, blinded, nose hanging off, still goes on to win.

    For weight disparity, Marciano was 5'11" 185lbs, his average opponent was 6'1" and 10lbs heavier than himself. Unlike, say, Ali, who had 2" of height and 15lbs on his average opponent. (ironic coming from me, who doesnt think weight matters all that much over 180lbs)
     
  14. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    What can I say? Ra's Al-Ghul made me see the light!
     
  15. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Welcome back buddy.
     
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