Juan Domingo Roldan vs John Mugabi

War. Both gave Hagler good fights. Mugabi hit Hagler more, but Hagler had declined a little since 84.

Both are strong with good power and durable. Mugabi has better one punch power. Neither has good defense. Mugabi is a bit more versatile and better schooled. I'll go with Mugabi late as Juan swells up and they stop it with him still fighting back.

 

He did better because he was much more durable

 

I agree.
But I've seen some use his later defeats (to Thomas, Norris and McClellan) to cast doubt on his durability.

 

A few of my Mugabi fights...

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Well if you think Hagler was in better shape against Mugabi than he was against Hearns then that would be valid. Do you think he was? I don't. I think Hagler looked bad. He did in fact have a broken nose in late October and the word was which how do you confirm 34 years later- that he had back issues. And I wondered why he looked so sluggish and his punches looped so much. You cannot say the Hagler who fought Hearns was the same one who fought Mugabi.

And Mugabi didn't look good against top guys who were less than Hagler. And he went down that much with one fight, when Hearns or other guys Duran were knocked out and came back and won titles? And Tommy hit Marvin much more clean than Mugabi did and wobbled him and Mugabi did not, even that uppercut in I think round 6 was not a punch which wobbled Hagler. Styles make fights. I was talking about Mugabi and the fact is he was overrated a bit in a loss. Marvin was rusty.. And that is fact.

 

It was not about Hearns, but since we are on the subject I don't think he did better. I really don't. Hagler never said that. And in fact if he did better you guys are saying it ruined his career. Hagler was not landing clean in that fight and looping his punches and he didn't look good. I would love to know how training went, but who would know now?

The Hearns fight is the one remembered more so I am not sure Mugabi really better. It was a different fight. Hearns won several more titles and beating Virgil Hill 6 years later. Who was more durable? Mentally and physically? Hearns never was knocked out in one round or quit a fight because of a thumb. He wouldn't have. The fact is Hagler was not sharp in that fight. Hagler should have retired after Hearns. He was not motivated anymore. I don't think Mugabi could have taken Leonard's punches for 14 rounds It is apples to oranges here.

 

Roldan might throw the beast off with his style. His defense seemed to be pretty good too

 

I think Tony would knock him out

 

Ayala? I don't see it. Who did Tony ever beat which shows he could beat Mugabi or anyone good?

 

Yeah, I just think Roldan is there for Mugabi to hit

 

Now that's a winnable fight for Mugabi.

I think he stops Tony.

 

Mugabi and durable just don't belong. Mugabi showed some decent punch resistance in one fight, a fight he lost. Feather fisted James Green had him reeling all over the ring. He was crunched in other fights in the blink of an eye. Hearns durability tho average at best still held out enough to earn him a comfortable place in the top 100 of all time. Sure he was helped by his immense offense and excellent skill but not a snowballs chance in hell is Mugabi "much more durable".

 

You mean they use fights when he was prime and barely 30 or under? How dare they LOL

There's James Green pre Hagler too. Green just wasn't good enough nor did he possess crisp enough power to finish him. Mugabi was reeling for a long long time against a quite friendly puncher.

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Full credit to Mugabi for his fine challenge against a tired Hagler. If we want to judge harshly however he made no attempt to rise at all. Hearns tho pole axed somehow beat the count against Hagler. He would practically die in there before being counted out. If there was any chance whatsoever humanly possible he could get up there he was clawing his way.

 

Prime Hagler would have likely stopped JJ in 2 like McCallum did.

 

Mate are you sure you arent me logging in while I sleep hahaha

My view as well. Roldan was a bull who was a lot stronger and harder to hurt than Mugabi. I loved the Beast as a kid, his fight with Curtis Parker was televised on Oz tv for some reason I cant remember. I always thought he was pretty beatable though.

Cheers Legend.