Crolla isn't that Bad

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by George Crowcroft, Apr 11, 2019.


  1. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    True fight fans should see this, it wouldn't be fair otherwise, everyone gets a bite of the apple if they've earned it !
     
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  2. The Ogdoad

    The Ogdoad Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    He's Domestic level, maybe Euro level as I said. Fighting for a title doesn't make you world level. Beating world level opposition does. He's lost to Domestic level opposition.
     
  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Crolla's a former world champion, has beaten some pretty decent fighters, and more to the point he's Loma's mandatory challenger who stepped in after IBF champ Commey had to pull out of a unification match up with Loma after injuring his hand.

    Loma fought #1 ranked WBA lightweight champ Linares for his debut at 135 (no 3 fights to settle into the new weight first)

    Then in his 2nd fight at 135 he unified against WBO lightweight champ Pedraza even though it was his first fight back after shoulder surgery after suffering a very serious injury in the 2nd round in his previous fight against Linares. Loma very easily could have fought a Jason Welborne or a Edwin Rodriguez level opponent like Hurd and Ward did for their first fights back returning after shoulder surgery but he opted to jump right back into a unification match up with a two-weight world champion and world amateur silver medalist in Pedraza.

    And his third fight at 135 would've been another unification match up with IBF champ Commey had the Ghanaian not suffered an injury.

    So now he's getting his mandatory out of the way because, duh, that's what you have to do if you want to keep a hold of your belts and unify all the titles, and many of these clowns who'll crucify him for talking this fight are the same clowns who criticized him for not unifying at 126 and 130 even when some of the other champs at those respective weights openly admitted they wanted no part of him. And they're the same clowns who'll cite the fact that Crawford did unify belts to try and discredit Loma's position as P4P#1. :facepalm:
     
  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    And he beat World level opposition
     
  5. Birmingham

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    So what is Hopkins then ?? He was worse surely, losing at domestic in his first fight
     
  6. The Akbar One

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    He has six losses. He's lost to domestic level guys, and also some bum gave him an L too.

    To be clear I don't blame Loma for this, I'm just saying it's a **** fight.
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    So? Ezzard Charles lost 25 times, and he's one of the greatest. Regardless of losing to domestic or journeyman. He's been a champion and has beaten quality opposition. He's also moved back up to the mandatory. His degrading is pathetic
     
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  8. "TKO"

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    This sums it up in an absolute nutshell. Why some people on the British forum always seem to think it's their duty to sh*t all over the British fighter I don't know.

    This thread seriously needs to give its head a wobble. People are calling Crolla a domestic level fighter? WTF!!! A domestic level fighter is Masher Dodd or Scott Cardle. Not a former world champ with wins over Rees, Perez, Barroso, Murray (who is the definition of a European level fighter), Burns and Yordan amongst others. Ring have Crolla as four in the world, Boxing Monthly at 7. Thats pretty high domestic level!!!

    The disrespect shown towards Crolla by some on here is sickening. So he lost a few early career fights. Big deal! Not everyone gets the silver spoon, amateur star, carefully plotted career path. A lot of fighters have to take any fights they can get, often on short notice and without detailed study of the opponent. Of course, it couldn't possibly be that a guy might just be able to learn from some early setbacks to help him develop and improve as a fighter?!!!

    Has he got a hope in hell against Loma? No. But is he any worse an opponent for a title fight than Pedraza, Marriaga, Jason Sosa, Roman Martinez, Koasicha, Gamalier Rodriguez or Suriya Tatakhun? Doubtful. But Lomachenko is another level entirely.
     
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  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Couldn't agree more, I hope he wins. Although I know I won't
     
  10. The Ogdoad

    The Ogdoad Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    It's more a reflection of how poor the current lightweight division is.
     
  11. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He’s got heart the lad no doubt about that and he’s not going in here to lie down(he’s a northern lad, we not built like that), but he’s shop worn and don’t forget potentially his best years were disrupted with his skull injury when he defended his NEIGHBOURS HOUSE(fair play) I don’t belive for one second he thinks he’s cashing out here, but either way he’s getting schooled if he’s on his game tonight the first 3 rounds could look borderline competitive, but once loma starts to time him it’s game over he won’t get a look in, but there’s no doubt Anth deserves respect.
     
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  12. PistolPat

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    The disrespect stems from fanbase vs fanbase. There's other threads calling Hatton a joke, Froch and Kessler mediocre fighters. Even fighters such Canelo, Jones, Calazaghe. Lara are criticized. Yet you're shocked that Crolla's ability is getting downplayed?

    Some of the same people defending Crolla as a good opponent, are the ones bashing these other fighters, hence why crap like this happens. The amount of example I could give are endless, double standards is the root of it all.
     
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  13. thanosone

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    Loma should KO in 5.
     
  14. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bottom line, Crolla was Linares toughest opponent and Linares was Loma's toughest. He'd earned a crack at Loma via the transitive property. **** boxing math, I'm on boxing algebra.
     
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  15. PIPO23

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    He couldn't beat Linares in 2 fights. That tells you all you need to know. This guys gets wrecked by Gervonta Davis, Teofimo Lopez and Mikey Garcia. He is a kind of opponent to look good against.