Picture of Sonny Liston and Rocky Marciano

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  1. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So Marciano is a round up, hard evidence Rocky hit harder......
     
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    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I get it you can be an attrition puncher and a power puncher (Frazier and Bonavena come to mind quickly). Those happened to be Rocky’s last two fights as well. Attrition fighters game plan for the long haul...four rounds isn’t very long. I just have never known a fighter to KO at an average of four rounds and be called an attrition puncher (which isn’t an insult just inaccurate) if you know an attrition puncher with a KO percentage below 6 please let me know. Jeffries was an attrition puncher knocking out opponents in 12 yet I’ll see some calling him a power puncher. Some say Shavers hit harder then foreman (couple fighters said that) doesn’t mean I believe them. I don’t think anyone would call Frazier an attrition puncher but it took him longer to KO his opponents.
     
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    This made me laugh out loud
     
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  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Very easily amused then.....
     
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  5. Reason123

    Reason123 Not here for the science fiction. Full Member

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    This describes what modernists do to every hw past 1967.
     
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    My wife says so
     
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    Pretty impressive that at the age of 19 Williams was already getting comparable results to a prime Marciano.
     
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  8. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not really seeing as though Williams hit much harder....... Lol.
     
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  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Give me 5 prime elite fighters that Marciano beat, or is he not an elite puncher either, your entire argument is flawed
    Tua is a very good puncher, yet he hasn't KOed any elite fighters
     
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    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    he had charisma in spades but what he lacked (in spades) was evidence of punching power against name fighters.

    simple. Not that I would campaign for Morrison but at least knocked out Razor Ruddock pretty spectacularly. He knocked out a lot of the usual suspects too, but everyone was wary of his power.

    Shavers knocked out Jimmy Ellis, he knocked out Ken Norton. He nearly knocked out Larry Holmes in a title fight.
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    This. Marciano was a real good one puncher KO artist, but his true KO potential cane from breaking his opposition down slowly
     
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    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Give me one prime great fighter Williams beat, doesn't have to be elite.

    Marciano proved it and didn't need this mythical what if aura around him.
     
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  13. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And Williams was neither hahahaha.
     
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    You know Walcott said Marciano had more one punch power than joe Louis. That’s a pretty strong endorsement.
     
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    A) How can one be "prime" and "great" and not be elite? That makes no sense.

    B) Which prime, elite fighter did Marciano KO?
     
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