Team Golovkin still can’t find an opponent

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Gennady, Apr 15, 2019.


  1. Lazar

    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,114
    4,280
    Mar 3, 2016
    Dude, you have no wiggle room to take a stance on balanced view. None.

    You lost it when you became a PED cheat apologist. You’re stuck in denial, because I know you’re not that stupid to believe the excuse. Canelo tested positive and you doubled down on him because you’re too emotionally invested.

    Step outside yourself for a moment and see how ridiculous that seems.
     
    timeout, Dario Argento and C.J. like this.
  2. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

    46,772
    15,890
    Apr 14, 2009
    See here ya go spreading lies again you fool There were NO illegal pads & Tony's wraps were 100 % OK against Cotto I saw them wrapped myself
    Tony LEGITIMATELY kicked Cotto's ass
     
  3. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

    50,553
    18,240
    Oct 7, 2006
    Of course I can take a stance. What kind of ridiculous fantasy world do you think you live in?

    You're in the minority here. The vast, and I mean vast majority of boxing fans have either forgiven or given an accused PED cheater the benefit of the doubt.

    If I can give Vitali Klitschko and BJ Saunders a pass, or Alexander Povetkin the benefit of the doubt, I can give it to Canelo who made a solid case to prove his innocence.

    I don't see why I have to treat Canelo with different standards.

    Unless you've never given any accused PED cheat a pass then you're the ridiculous one for holding Canelo to a different standard.

    I'm just being consistent, you're probably not.
     
  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

    50,553
    18,240
    Oct 7, 2006
    Lying doesn't help your credibility.

    Of course he had illegal pads. Now run along back to pretend land.
     
  5. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

    46,772
    15,890
    Apr 14, 2009
    Youre the one lying C'mon prove Tony EVER had anything illegal except a harmless used pad. C'mon Troll chance to prove yourself Richardson & the CSAC couldn't. Proof or STFU & apologize to the forum for your continual lies
     
  6. ChefBoy RG

    ChefBoy RG Pockets Piggly Wiggly banned Full Member

    3
    0
    Apr 14, 2019
    Ggg-Manfredo jr Mexican Style in june
     
  7. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

    50,553
    18,240
    Oct 7, 2006
    You're in the minority here. You like to prove points by pointing to public majority opinion like the Canelo-GGG fights. Majority opinion says Margarito cheated.

    So you're a liar and a hypocrite.
     
  8. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

    22,755
    22,631
    Mar 5, 2012
    let's not forget Mosley
     
  9. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

    41,974
    4,029
    Sep 22, 2010
    to be fair, Canelo was not caught IN A FIGHT using anything.
    SO its not evidence he was cheating in a fight.


    BUt yes there is some evidence he may have been trying to.

     
  10. Lazar

    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,114
    4,280
    Mar 3, 2016
    So you’re rolling with the VAST majority opinion on this one?

    Cool.

    VAST majority also had Canelo losing the first fight. So then you agree with that vast majority, right? Or do you pick and choose when to agree when it fits your opinion?
     
    C.J. likes this.
  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    23,125
    9,868
    Aug 1, 2012
    You're comparing two completely different things. One is based purely on your own personal belief / imagination as to what caused the drug test, whether it was accidental meat contamination or some kind of intentional cheating. There's no way you can know what actually happened there. As far as forgiving a PED "cheater", every situation is different and each situation needs to be evaluated based on the circumstances surrounding it. You can't generalize and say the vast majority forgives PED cheaters, I don't see any data that indicates that is even the case. It seems to me that the public has a very difficult time forgiving proven PED cheaters. I remember about a decade ago when Barry Bonds was still playing with all the PED rumors about him swirling around. When he played at his home stadium Giants fans cheered him but when he went to away games he was booed and called a cheater. And it was a big distraction through the later stages of his career. Many fans didn't think he should even be allowed to play baseball after what he was accused of, his involvement. The general consensus was that he was proven to have cheated. But did the public by and large ever truly forgive Barry Bonds? I think it's kind of hard to say, and not really a clear thing, maybe to an extent he was forgiven as he was still allowed to play but it was certainly something that followed him around and he heard the boos and being called a cheater on road games in his final years, so I don't know if you can say the vast majority of fans truly forgave him, it certainly didn't seem that way.

    But again that's a completely different situation to that of what happened to Canelo with trace amounts of a substance commonly found in Mexican meat, I'm just bringing that up to challenge the idea that the vast majority of the public forgives proven PED cheaters. I don't believe that or a second, but at the same time it's very ignorant to try to compare Canelo to other proven PED cheaters where meat contamination wasn't a very real possibility.

    So there's that, then there's watching a fight that goes the distance and deciding who won. There's a lot of moving parts that go into that. You have the telecast, the commentators, unofficial scorers, expectations, fighter styles, activity level / punch volume, etc etc etc. You have fan biases, rooting for a fighter, etc etc etc. When it comes to decisions and who the public thought won, there's a lot that goes into it, and with Canelo when the drug test came up it was on the heels of the first Canelo GGG fight where the vast majority had GGG winning. So there seemed to be some overlap there, with GGG fans (which compromised a good % of those that had GGG winning the first fight) naturally being more inclined to believe Canelo cheated for obvious reasons.
     
  12. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

    53,088
    6,685
    Sep 8, 2010
    The last I heard was that DAZN was lining up his own Jeff Horn/Tom Schwarz, and that it is to be at 164 pounds... I'd never heard of the dude before.
     
  13. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

    93,111
    27,843
    Jan 18, 2010
    The opponent that was mentioned for Golovkin is actually fighting Charlo, so that won't happen.
     
  14. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

    41,974
    4,029
    Sep 22, 2010
    Admittedly even for a 3G fan it has been a long time 3G no fight with anyone at all.

    Maybe he not fully recovered from being beat by elite yet. It could be anything. I think sometimes you guys misjudge boxers, they can be sensitive people too. Maybe he just need more time to cry for a bit.

    remember 3G went uplevels very quicklyin the space of 2 years from 2014 on. When you been koing bums largely for 10 hyears, suddenly you are knocking out world level, then you are facing elite.... these are massive jumps.
    SO you may ask - what has this to dowith 3G taking 7 months to find a next opponent? Well obviously because ...if you not been listening to me all this time....he is going to step up even more, to face HoF or ATG next obviously. Thats why it is taking time to prep.

    You need time to prep for a HoF /ATG bout, even 3g.
     
  15. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

    50,553
    18,240
    Oct 7, 2006
    I don't base my opinion on popular opinion. I was simply making a point and pointing out the hypocrisy.