Picture of Sonny Liston and Rocky Marciano

The thread asks what happens between a prime Liston and a fat, old Marciano, who most think would lose to Liston in Marciano prime for prime, in sparring. By simply saying that Liston does any less than pummel Marciano is owning yourself

 

Someone else entertain him.

 

Don't attempt to debate him George, he will troll you repeatedly.
Numerous people have said the same over the years.

 

Noted

 

If you get bored, start a thread asking about American Armed Forces height to weight ratio guidlines over the years.
He will like that.

Oh and title it " The Spinks Experiment "

 

Damn, this thread is an absolute shitshow.

 

It's a good thing Wlad would take them both in the same night.

There.

 

Actually, upon the matter of the photo, I haven’t said anything different so I can’t be “owning myself”.

I was asking who blackcloud thinks owned me.

Earlier Mcvey was trying to score some point about charles being a better fighter during the three years Ezzard didn’t win a pro fight. This was after he and others were flogging a dead horse about big cat Williams qualifying as an ATG puncher without beating notable opponents by knockout.

I answered both of those questions - in detail, then out of his “black cloud” Somebody (who never featured or contributed) appears from the dark and rather unpolitely says “choklab got owned”.

Well the reasonable thing is to ask “by whom”, yet nobody has been able to sufficiently tell me.

 

Well I can definitely agree that WW2 Charles wasnt the best Charles (one of Charles best performances was going 15 with Rocky, despite being past his prime)

 

I'd favour Liston over Wlad in most ways,
Power, reach, chin, jab,
One bomb from Sonny and it's nap time for Wlad

 

It's possible but I'm not favoring it to happen. Waldo stayed on the top for a very long time. And it's not like Sonny beat a Murderer's Row to remain in contention. Oh, and Wlad can punch really, really hard, also.

 

Oh Chok.

 

Oh johnThomas, let’s pray you have something interesting to add. Anything.

perhaps you can figure out why Cleveland Williams is the only legendary puncher without a signature knockout win. or perhaps why Charles, unlike Patterson, is only remembered as a great lightheavyweight despite also wining the heavyweight crown?

 

It started with a photograph, how did it end up like this.