Jarrell Miller PED/failed drug test Thread

I don't blame them. Imagine you have to fight a very dangerous and hard hitting heavyweight who you know is taking drugs but is immune to any criticism and will continue to take drugs with no sanctions. Miller even made allegations of TUEs for Anthony Joshua which were swept under the carpet and never explained properly to the public or anyone in the media.

I have sympathy for Miller. All he's trying to do is even the score and it's not even levelling the playing field because Miller is taking Mickey Mouse drugs and Joshua has access to pharmaceutical grade hormones.

 

Well now nobody will talk about the TUE allegations will they? Now it's all about Miller's "failed test". Bit convenient I'd say.

 

They swap Joshua's urine for rivals, to keep him at the top.

The boxing-financial-industrial-military complex won't be denied it's golden goose.

Not serious.

Though honestly if you think Joshua is clean, I want to know if you want to be a tupperware sales representative and recruiter, it's not a pyramid scheme.

 

So many faceless newbies trying to control the narrative calling me a troll for simply stating the truth. Damage control. This is what boxing has come 2. Miller has been spiked.

 

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That's the mindset of a doper, making excuses for their own doping to justify it. Hey everyone else is doping so I might as well.

Maybe Joshua is doping but it will take more than made up allegations to prove it and it still doesn't make Miller's choice to cheat, especially with such a dangerous black market drug ok.

 

Cardarine doesn't give you cancer. They found cancer inducing properties when they megadosed mice with like 100x the recommended dose. It's well known and widely used among many athletes. No one's gotten cancer because of it. It's estimated that at least 2/3 of athletes were on it during Bejing Olympics games, since it wasn't on the banned list at the time. LD50 of water is 6 liters, meaning that if an average person chugs down 6 liters of water, there's a 50% chance that he'll die. People have died during water chugging competitions. Some Israeli woman got severe brain damage recently because her diet consisted entirely of water and fruit juice. Is water deadly now?

But you're right that it is a wonder drug. The research was discontinued because of that exact reason. They don't want to actually cure you, they wan't you on expensive symptom relief therapies for the rest of your life so they can rake in maximum amount of profit.

 

Good to hear but will obviously come down to money. Whyte will probably try and use the fact they need to late replacement to leverage more money, which is fair to be honest, but then again he again runs the risk of pricing himself out if Ortiz or Kownacki or someone else agrees to fight Joshua for less.

 

''Simply stating the truth'' yet you have no proof to back you up at all.

 

Its called precedent. Happens over and over constantly, and blatantly. Like I said, fighters keep screaming it from the rooftops, fight fans keep throwing them under a bus. There are some very knowledgable boxing fans on here, but apart from a few, most dont know s#$t about politics. Feel free to show me proof he wasnt spiked.

 

Boxing is no ordinary sport though, it's a matter of life and death; of good health and potential brain damage.

If I was boxing an elite fighter you'd better believe I'd be taking PEDs because there would be a legit risk to my life if I'm fighting someone who is unnaturally stronger and faster than me etc.

Jungle rules and Miller was doing what he needed to do to survive.

 

This should be a golden age in boxing , yet all we are getting are mismatches, drug cheats and dodgy judging

****ing sick of it.

 

To add some fuel to the fire, GW1516 is perfect for spiking and terrible for cheating:

1) You can't get a TUE for GW1516.
This is makes it bad for cheating as you can't use a TUE as a shield. Miller knows about this as he accused Joshua of using a TUE for synthetic testosterone.
It's good for spiking as your target can't pay off a doctor for a back dated certificate (eg Lance Armstrong for corticosteroid) - once the target tests positive they are toast.

2) It's carcenogenic.
Bad for cheating - PED users are rationale, this is not a suicide mission, other exercise minimic and receptor enhancing drugs are available with lesser side effects.
Good for spiking. GW1516 is not allowed in the food chain anywhere - no contaiminated beef or uncastrated wild boar excuses.

3) It's easily detected in a urine test.
This needs no explaination - bad for cheating good for spiking, particularly while you are signed up to regular drug testing in the build up for a fight.

If you had to pick a drug to spike GW1516 is perfect.
If you had to pick a drug to cheat GW1516 is awful.
How many other positive GW1516 samples have there been in the last 5 years? PED users are just not that stupid.

 

Let me ask you this, if you're a high level professional boxer and you've been caught taking performance enhancing drugs would you come out and say ''yeah I've been taking PEDS, I was trying to get an edge on my opponent'' or would you try to shift the blame away and say you've had some tainted meat or didn't check the ingredients in your nutritional workout shake/supplements?

Also my proof is as following: Miller failed a drug test.

 

That's not proof as failing a test fits both stories:
- he was cheating
- he was spiked

How do you distinguish between them? The difference is intent and state of mind. You might just be able prove a spike (witnesses, confession of the spiker) very hard to prove the negative - he wasn't spiked.