Marciano vs Foreman... What Can The Rock Do?

-LWH fights in previous 30:

Quiroz, Miranda, Johnson x4, Bacon, Maxim x2, Olson, Martinez.

11 total fights, 7 opponents total. As I said, not that many.

 

Quiroz
Miranda
Bacon
Maximx3
Andrews
Martinez
Ansalone
Olson
Johnson x4

14 out of 30.

 

Sonny Andrews was a heavyweight.

Last week the 175-pound champion stopped Heavyweight Sonny Andrews in the fifth round »t Sacramento, Calif

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Ansaloni was a HW as well, I believe.

Forgot the 3rd Maxim meeting. So again, that's 7 of 12-14 bouts against the same two men. It's still quite obvious he didn't face anymore than 7-9 LHWS in this time to roughly 15 HWs.

 

A newspaper can describe him how it likes
It's bull**** sorry ,Andrews weighed 177lbs for that fight and Moore weighed 182lbs he was a light heavyweight that night.

Ansaloni weighed 178lbs to Moore's 180lbs ,ie a light heavyweight for that fight.
Why should I forget the 3rd Maxim meeting? Its among Moore's 30 fights prior to the Marciano bout.

Summary .

Out of Moore's previous 30 fights prior to facing Marciano 14 of them were against Light heavyweights.

Therefore your statement that of the 30 Moore "didnt fight that many " is wrong.

Just say it, it won't burn your tongue ,you wont be condemned to limbo .

What is it with you and Bummy Davis?
Can't you be wrong?:huh

 

Perhaps they are both aware that the limit for the Light Heavy division is 175, whereas it appears that you are not.:hi:

 

Oh I think I am ,I boxed .
By your rationale then Duran had only 17 fights as a Lightweight
ie scaling between 130lbs and 135lbs. This is out of a total of 119.
Furthermore going into the first Leonard fight, when you describe him as a "career lightweight" he had engaged in a total of 72 fights only 17 of which were inside the Lightweight limits.
" Cake and eat it ,"comes to mind or, in your case "Cake and idiot":rofl

Are you familiar with the term }

Hoist With Your Own Petard? Or should we rather say .

Hoist With Your Own Pedantry!
You sure SUCCUMBED there didn't you.:happy:hi:

 

-Uh...Andrews and Ansaloni over 175 then. Moore certainly was if he was coming in at 180+. They are HW fights.

-No, I forgot it.

-Actually, I'm not wrong. So we have 12 possible LHW bouts, 7 were against the same two men. That's only 7 total LHW opponents. And I suspect its actually less as I believe some of these we are counting were also at HW.

-Now real Irony is use telling somebody to admit to being wrong. I got your "pass" response and seen you give it out plenty of times when you were incorrect. Don't project your hang ups on me. I've admited to being wrong several times.

 

So because Moore is 180lbs he isn't fighting light heavyweights ? And,because he fights the same men a couple of times that somehow disqualifies them from being lightheavyweight fights?
The bone of contention is that I say that in the 30 fights before he met Marciano 14 of them were against men who were light heavies ,this is just one less than 50%.And directly contradicts your observation that he didnt fight many lhvy's in that period.



Do you have any idea how ridiculous your position sounds ? It flies in the face of all known logic.

As much as I have absolutely no respect or regard for Foxy I corrected a mistake I made on another thread regarding Leonard's fights with Hearns I admitted I got it wrong .
What's he gonna do SHOOT ME? As obnoxious as he is he still replied," fair play to you".

HOw insecure must you be not being able to duplicate that?
I give out "Pass" when I can't be bothered to debate further because the poster I'm talking to is doing what you are. Changing the goal posts every time he is caught out.Its really pathetic.

You are wrong for Christ sake I know it, and you know it,if you had admitted it ,I would have said," no worries mate,we all make mistakes."

You're descending to Foxy's level and your posts are better than that
As it is you now come across as a desperate saddo,who cannot bear to be proved wrong so.


PASS

 

-Being over the LHW limit and refered to as a HW by the press means these men were likely heavyweights and shouldn't be counted as light heavyweight opponents. Moore coming in at 180 confirms these were not light heavyweight bouts.

-My original observation still stands. "He didn't fight that many. The highly skilled Maxim and Johnson multiple times in a loop." These same two men count for well over half of his LHW bouts in the time you outlined. Remember what we were arguing about. Moore not having many knockouts at LHW, and my point was that it was misleading to say such a thing when most of his LHW bouts in this timeframe was against the same two guys, both noted for being crafty survivors.

- Remimd me when you actually watch Cooper/Ali btw. PASS

 

Cooper v Ali? I'm sorry I dont understand the reference.

 

Oh my.........

 

That was a terrifying read. My eyes are in pain. From him only losing to Gene Tunney and Charley Goldman being the best trainer of all time to him KOing Foreman and to Frazier not resembling Marciano. It was a spectacle

 

Actually that has an argument to it

The rest was a spectacle to be sure

 

Foreman bullies, terrorises and ultimately demolishes Marciano, to much size, weight, power, chin going up against to little chin (overrated as **** imo), defense and fundimentals.

 

I don't know, my pick would go to Ray Arcel then Dundee and then a toss up between Steward and Cus for 3rd

But there's a thread in that