Marciano vs Foreman... What Can The Rock Do?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Parker wasn't much,and he was never ranked.
     
  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Moore knocked out more than enough big guys and you know it. Every time somebody comes up with proof you use all kinds of lame excuses to discredit it such as the guy was too old or unranked whatever. And it just looks so hypocritical because when you are making a point less will do.

    Moore knocked out high caliber heavyweight opponents. He was a genuine knockout puncher of both heavyweights and lightheavyweights. He qualifies as a big puncher. Even the ring magazine says so.
     
  3. mcvey

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    He isn't in Foreman's league as a heavyweight puncher and only a poster like you would equate him so.
    Apart from Bivins,Lavorante, and Baker, which ranked heavyweights did he stop?
     
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  4. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Absolutely. This is a valid point.

    Right. Marciano has to maul and frustrate Foreman without getting himself knocked out during the early stages. He does this and Foreman will have shot his bolt. But it’s not so much of a long shot when we know the size discrepancy itself is not new to Marciano. Joe Louis was practically the same size as Foreman was against Joe Frazier. Sure this is all pure fantasy. Why should any of this be entirely ruled out?
     
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  5. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    But he only has to hit as hard as the man who DID knock Foreman out.
     
  6. mcvey

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    And Foreman only has to hit as hard as Leonard Morrow who kod Archie in one round!lol
     
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  7. choklab

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    I don’t think so. Foreman suffered a knockout. Marciano did not. I don’t know what point you are trying to score in saying Moore got knocked out. Archie Moore hit harder than Ali. Consult the Ring Magazine all time puncher ratings (as you are usually so keen to quote) to check where Moore is compared to the guy who knocked prime George Foreman out. This is all rather simple.
     
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  8. Seamus

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    Your post is pretty much the definition of Intellectual Dishonesty.
     
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  9. Seamus

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    Who that Marciano faced was 1/10th the fighting machine that Ali was. And I do not know, and disinclined to believe that Moore hit harder than Ali. Ali wasn't swinging away at 170 pounders for 95% of his career. Had that been the case, he probably would rank ridiculously high in the power department.

    Again, you are goosestepping in the Intellectual Dishonesty Parade.
     
  10. Glass City Cobra

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    Horrible, horrible matchup. Rocky would be bringing a pistol to a shotgun fight. Sure he reloads faster and has more ammo but a single shot from the other guy would either quickly turn things around or end the duel.

    Getting stopped on his feet and a standing ovation is about the only thing he could manage 9 times out of 10. It wouldnt even be sanctioned today.
     
  11. Gazelle Punch

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    170 pounds? Wow not only does Marciano’s height and weight get lowered so does his opponents. And Joe Louis, Ezzard, Walcott, Moore even prime Layne were 1/10 of an older Ali. Not that I’m picking Marciano in this fight just calling out some exaggerated false info. Although I must say some posters certainly gave me some doubt as to Foreman’s dominance in this matchup as it probably is more competitive prime for prime then I initially thought.
    Edit must apologize thought you were referring to Marciano not Moore. Although Moore had plenty of fights at HW and his KO percentage did drop up there.
     
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  12. JohnThomas1

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    Ali is the GOAT. Ali laid on the ropes and put together the odd counter while blocking and taking some hellacious shots both to body and head. Ali was quite big heavyweight and also at various times man handled George a bit. When the time was right Ali flashed in some pinpoint punches in rapid succession on a tired George to get the win.

    I personally wouldn't use the word "exposed". I can't think of another guy in history who could have laid on the ropes and won like that. To get George exhausted you have to survive numerous rounds of high octane bombs.

    This would be a firefight and a guy 5" 10 1/2" with a 68" reach is going to struggle to say the least. This is why he is getting almost zero traction.
     
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  13. JohnThomas1

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    And he was tired. It doesn't win much traction against knowledgeable posters that's for sure tho it was good to stir Foreman/Dempsey up with lmao.
     
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  14. JohnThomas1

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    Ah no. Technically Rocky also has to drag Foreman to the depths of exhaustion that Ali did. He wouldn't be there at that point.
     
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  15. JohnThomas1

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    The hypocritical one is you. Cleveland Williams knocked out his share of big men as well but you refuse to rate or accept any of them on the bounds of being no good. When it's Archie you come up with all sorts of bells, whistles, untruths and whatever else you can to try and credit them.
     
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