Which fighters do you think are clean?

Manny Pacquiao.

 

I'm aware that Fury failed a drug test a while ago with the whole wild boar incident, but I'm confident Fury is clean and PED free since then.

 

Firstly, I have a deep rooted, personal interest on the mesmerizing topic of genetics.

Secondly, I have seen more talk about PEDs use and not as much on genetics which I just figured out why as I write this sentence.... because I have been banned twice for talking about genetics... so maybe I'll just get back on PED's talk.

 

I wouldn't count on it, I'd say he was on something to help him shift all that weight.

 

If you believe any man who makes their living and define "who they are" based on athletic achievement isn't on PED's you are naive and obviously detached from the general human condition. These are in many cases ego-maniacs, who have surrounded themselves with people who prop them up and reinforce their idiocy, they are addicted to the limelight, and will do anything to stay at the top, to achieve their life long goals, and/or maintain the standards of life for their families. If I thought PED's would make me better at my job, positively impact my earning potential, and/or provide my children a better life I'd do it without reservation and have not one bit of guilt about it. I would have no guilt because I would fully expect everyone else to be doing the exact same thing. You think "honor" is going to deter these guys from providing for their families and/or completing their lifes work?

 

It's not a conspiracy its an absolute fact...the key to beating drug testing isn't bribing the tester, it's having the best chemists in the world designing designer drugs that the tests aren't built to account for. Are you being serious?

 

Donaire

 

Dude...it's not "Unlikely", it is exactly how it is done. I'm the best chemist in the world, do I:
A: Go to work for VADA making 200k per year testing athletes
B: Open my own lab and charge Elite athletes millions to design the most sophisticated PED's the world has ever known

I'm astonished at your position...I have to believe you're trolling.

 

It's a fact that it has happened in the past...

It is not as easy as you make it sound, there are a bunch of chemists on the other side, watching the blood work... designer drugs aren't made for cheap, or just like building a stack of Lego characters.

It's conspiracy that AJ is on it, while he was on VADA, still is... and Miller got popped. So we are suggessting AJ is on a designer drug and paid millions for it.

 

I don't think any athlete is properly "clean".
Same with non-athletes.
Drugs are just part of modern life.

 

Your problem is that you think the following proposition is so likely:

"Open my own lab and charge Elite athletes millions to design the most sophisticated PED's the world has ever known"

Without looking at how that would actually pan out... how would he be certain the PED would work, or how would the client be assured... or how would the desinger know the latest equipment being used, or tests being run... anything that could catch wind of the cascade biological processes triggered by the designer drug... you don't just work in a bubble as a chemist creating designer drugs... reality does not work this way.

 

Yeah they are, but blood work shows a hell of a lot about how your body is currently operating, and highlights any abnormalities (artificially induced or other)

 

You have to think of it this way, any of you seen AJ on Snapchat? If so you will see he has a huge entourage littered with blokes built bigger than him.

Now let's talk about the testing and such, be that tried and tested drugs or something new. You don't think the brains behind his team will have thought of the idea of using one of these cronies as a Guinea Pig?

They can try every drug they like and do the full research behind it without their star man getting involved. It's a very simple idea but very effective indeed, get someone else to do the dirty work and once you've cracked then administer it to the main man!

 

Yes. But intelligent scientists can find ways around that.

I have no doubt that the current best testing protocols make sport cleaner by greatly regulating the use of PEDs and keeping it within certain limits. But there's always going to be some way around it.

 

And the team of scientists on the other side are not intelligent yeah lol??

Yeah I agree there will be sometimes when the newly developed designer drug finds a way around, but I don't believe it is as simple as "the testing always keeps up with the drugs" it is not that straightforward.

A new drug doesn't have to be developed just for a test to be in place for it.... we know a lot about the human body already and we know within certain limit what is normal and what is abnormal regarding bodily processes, protein/enzyme synthesis, gene receptor encoding, cellular uptake, these can all prove red flags.

Anways, I'm done with PED's talk, it's an endless rabbit hole.