Greatest fighter?

Based on greatness factoring in things such as longevity, competition and dominance, Greb or Robinson

In terms of H2H, Marciano, Ali and Louis are all tied for 1st at heaviweight, and I'd obviously take my top heavyweights to beat my top lower weight H2H champs

In terms of H2H P4P, I don't even consider that, because H2H P4P doesn't make sense

 

Ali...I know that’s not the consensus opinion but his competition was the best at HW and it’s the division that could end you with one punch. His prime years before banishment was a thing of beauty with a style I’ve never seen replicated in the division to this day. Chin style footwork speed and power and corner the most important things to me for a boxer he had in abundance. You’ll probably never see a HW beat that great of competition again.

 

This is becoming as commonly regurgitated as all the heavyweight talk. Will it ever end...? Every other thread is someone's top ten all time pound for pound or some nonsense like that.

 

Without hesitation, Sugar Ray Robinson. And I don't even think it's that close. No disrespect meant towards the likes of Greb or Langford, but they broke the mould with Sugar Ray.

 

The top tier is Langford, Greb and Robinson, and clearly so in my opinion. There is a significant gap before we talk of Duran, Armstrong and Ali. Due to the nature of the sport and its evolution, I don't think this will be changed anytime soon. I am comfortable with any of those three.

By the by, whoever chose Marciano above as the head to head greatest is orbiting in a whole new stratosphere of delusion and is completely disengaged from the terra firma that is the sport of boxing.

 

Harry Greb
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Everyone else.


Also, read Springs Toledo's book on Greb, Smokestack Lighting. It's ****ing amazing. Really captures the man, not just the record.

 

Greb is one of the figures that got me interested in boxing well over 10 years ago now. I always had a hard time wrapping my mind around the fact that a fighter that great actually existed. The more you learn about him the more blown away you are. How it was for me anyway.

 

Yeah.

Reading about him for the first time was like reading a dime store novel or researching a comic book character. Unbelievable!

 

It's been a long time since a man not Harry Greb has existed. He was about as much a product of his time as a man can be... I really do wonder what's changed in the world to not allow people like him to exist anymore. Is it just the climate of the world and the times?

 

I have always said that his record reads like science fiction. It is just that damn impressive. Highly recommend the Klompton book if you haven't read it.

 

Henry Armstrong was the greatest ever.

 

Salvador Sanchez was a heck of a fighter!