Which fighters do you think are clean?

Anyone not on the VADA 365 testing should be treated with some degree of suspicion

 

I think this post basically nailed it

from surveys most athletes who take PEDs do so because they "know" their competition is doing it and want to be able to compete

And I agree, these athletes dont compete for the love of competing or sportsmanship but to put money on the table and will do whatever it takes to have an edge and be at their possible best

 

I expect some of them are exactly the same people.
Working both sides.

 

And look where it got Miller....

About the the whole "Honor" thing... welll Miller tried a bit of "Honor" in juicing himself up and trying to fight AJ toe-to-toe.... when he could have just tried his best naturally and gone down, and bagged 6 Million.

So in this case.... getting caught for Juicing negatively impacts your career earnings by MINUS $6,000,000 rather than other way round... all because of human judgement. Had he stayed natural.... ask yourself why AJ imposed VADA.

Thank god for DARTH VADA

 

I figured you would think that....

Hence the topic, especially on this forum, is an absolute rabbit hole... endless discussion.

 

Why then is AJ and Dillian imposing VADA????

They knew it could catch someone out like Miller, and it worked.

AJ must be SUPREMELY CONFIDENT in his alleged designer drug walking past all VADA detectors.

 

Of course if AJ has cracked the "code" he's going to push for VADA.

Remember Mayweather and "I want to clean up the sport" bull****, those IV's tells us he's a lying cheating rat plain and simple.

I don't mind the drugs in the sport, I can't stand the hypocrites and lying fcukers that come with it.

Legalise the damn things and be done with it!

 

Read my post earlier about the sort of things that will go off behind the scenes, comment on it if you don't mind.

 

AJ isn't on the VADA 365 program I don't think, or has that changed? I know he enrolls in VADA when a fight is coming up but the conspiracy nut in my head can't help but notice he doesn't fight often or have the belt which comes with the enforced CBP (which Whyte is of course a part of)

 

It's simple maths, Hearn states the date of a fight after talking it through with the cash cows team. A plan is set in place which takes in to account VADA testing and bingo, the spectacle is made.

 

I have to give you credit... that is a juicy conspiracy theory...

You should become a screen writer or a novelist with that level of deep thinking. You must get flashbacks everytime you touch a turnip... like is this a GMO turnip... where did it come from!

 

I suspect he isn't on the 365 but he has been signed on for several weeks for this miller fight... surely would have shown something.

 

obviously getting caught negatively effects a career and possible earnings. However, thats not a deterrent for these guys to try because the upside of getting away with it and winning is massive

 

I think with the money behind AJ, anything is possible. He was the 'chosen one' after London 2012 - his career carefully mapped. In line with London 2012 being a success, he'll also most likely have a bit of political interest in his career as a positive Black role model who turned his back on a life of crime.

I wouldn't discount the influence that both big bucks promotion/marketing and also political interest can have on 'making things happen'.

As I said before though, I'm just a guy on a forum with no real knowledge of PEDs or the politics of regulatory bodies. I think though that if you've got enough money and enough people on your side - it's probably possible to get away with doping even in elite sport.

 

Please do tell on these tests. Looking at "abnormal" markers works only if the athletes have been taking supraphysiological doses of hormones. From my experience high doses actually have a detrimental effect on performance, and just at the upper limit and slightly above is optimal.

T:E test is easily beaten with simple masking. The thing is they don't do CIR unless your ratios are off. Even CIR can give inconclusive results if the testosterone is animal based or the athlete is on a specific high plant diet. However, smart users will taper off and microdose closer to testing. Luteinizing hormone doping is also very difficult to detect.

Microdosing EPO is going to have an extremely small detection window.

In addition, the HGH isoforms test also has an extremely short detection window. The biomarker test is irrelevant if you aren't taking supraphysiological doses.

So tell me again how testing means you're clean when the usual PED staples are not difficult to mask at all.