Luis Ortiz is out

Decent my arse... what decent???? How??????? against who??

Who else is he gonna fight under PBC and anywhere near 500K again let alone what Hearns is offering?

Show us the numbers, Hearns PPV numbers are widely published we know whats in the pot....

Hearn MOST LIKELY offered Ortiz GOOD money....

 

Ortiz should just make one excuse and stick to it. All the different attempts to justify ducking the fight just make it more and more obvious.

 

ortiz is a diffucult opponent
southpaw
got power
knows what he is doing
hard to get sparring for
not hard to see it being a diffucult fight for joshua
but team ortiz did turn down whatever the offer was

might have been more like 500k as you suspect but if you are ortiz himself and if you are ambitious for legacy over money you would still demand your team make the fight
the rematch clause money if ortiz won would guarantee him for life

 

Ortiz to me looks like a shot 50 year old. There's no doubt in my mind he is ten years older than stated. So many people have said it with the recent being a staff member of the Ukrainian boxing team. I'm amazed that matchroom are still avoiding him - he looks ripe for the picking. Maybe they have inside info that he's still a beast or maybe they have it wrong themselves.

On the other hand, I believe the real King Kong is fighting stiffs to preserve his record until satanist Al picks up the phone for the Wilder rematch.

 

Because what people claim are lowball offers aren't. This is a ridiculous narrative pushed by Wilder and his 25 managers.

Joshua can earn 'X' fighting anyone. The likes of Ortiz cannot.

It's the anti Joshua brigade who don't seem to be able to grasp the basic arithmetic here.

Would you rather have a 50/50 split of 2m dollar or a 20% split of 20m? Think carefully here.

 

People need to stop taking American purses so serious, especially fighters connected to illuminati Al Haymon.

They always get much more money than what's officially stated, hence why Broner was calling Hearn's offer "Slave money" despite it looking great on paper. Espinosa admitted this illegal practice goes on.

"I'd like to thank God and Al Haymon"

 

Give it a rest , arithmetic is like kryptonite to these fools . I said on numerous threads and I will say again PBC want a no-show and all PBC boxers are completely stupid . Kownacki , Ruiz and Ortiz will never fight Joshua . King Kong's team took one look and said F New York . They would rather run than fight on their own soil . Ortiz and PBC are being 1812 by AJ and Matchroom and everyone is clocking onto this .

 

Yeah sure, Ortiz will make more at PBC than fighting Joshua..... jeez wtf.... you lying to us or yourself?

How much you wanna bet he doesnt get another shot at Wilder?

 

Hold on everyone didn't Ortiz state that if Miller fell through he'd step in any minute for any money ??

 

Yes, but when he said that he clearly didn't expect to ever have to step in.

 

fair platy to wilder if he took on ortiz after breazeale

despite hearn clearly having offered team ortiz a fight / mty guess it was done reluctantly as anyone who knows boxing knows ortiz is in the who needs him camp of boxers/ no money /high risk/no reward

 

Kownacki hasn't fought Wilder. Charr hasn't fought Wilder. Bryan hasn't fought Wilder. Pulev hasn't fought Wilder. Kabayel hasn't fought Wilder. Hunter hasn't fought Wilder. Now Andy Ruiz is up, and he hasn't fought Wilder.

Those guys were all mentioned as possible opponents by Hearn, too. What did he offer them? What was the offer? Tell me. Clown.

You guys have Wilder on the brain.

 

I agree.

 

Have you just had some sort of fit? Do you have comprehension problems?

I'm talking about big bad Ortiz running for the hills when an offer was made to him. Fact is despite the fight not happening he wasn't willing to reveal the 'lowball' offer he received. I think this because he knows he'd be widely ridiculed for turning down a title shot he claims he desperately wants.

As for the other guys have any of them totally ruled themselves out yet? Have they claimed to have been 'lowballed'?

Get a hold of yourself man, you're making a total fool of yourself here.

Edit: Kownacki obviously shat himself and didn't claim it was about money. Said he needed time.

Pulev has agreed a fight before and pulled out so clearly he's not found it impossible to make a fight with Joshua'a team. He did suffer a cut in his last fight though so has a legit excuse IMO.

The others are still in the running.