Quick Poll Ruiz or Hunter for 1st June

Eddie Hearn is the promoter of both the May 25 and June 1 shows.

Would any of you seriously have been UPSET if Hearn had made Joshua-Usyk on June 1 and moved Hunter from the undercard to fight Takam in the main event on May 25?

No.

Not only is Joshua-Usyk a classic matchup ... Takam-Hunter is a more competitive fight.

He's the promoter of ALL Of them. How much easier would that have been? And how much BETTER would the fights have been?

Don't lash out at me because I'm pointing out the obvious ... and it's finally sinking in how Hearn could've delivered something GREAT instead of what you're going to be getting.

But you guys have been screaming about PBC for a week you couldn't see the forest through the trees.

 

Finally you've acknowledged that Usyk has a main event lined up.
You're quick learner, now things should be a lot more clear to you why he won't be a late sub for Joshua.

 

I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A WEEK!!!!

 

FINALLY? I have been talking about this for a week. And he wouldn't be LATE SUB. Usyk has been in camp for WEEKS and he'd get an EXTRA week to train, since he'd be fighting June 1st instead of May 25.

Doesn't matter.

Enjoy your 4 a.m. Joshua-Hunter PPV.

I'll put you down as someone who refuses to honestly answer a simple question about which card he prefers.

 

Yes, Usyk and his team have decided that Takam is a good fight for him to initiate his career at heavyweight. Unless you can find me something that suggests otherwise. Why would Usyk take 6-7mil now rather than wait and get paid 10-20mil down the line? Does that make sense to you?

Hunter doesn't have the marketability that Usyk has built up as such he probably won't get another shot at glory like this so he's taking it. So yes, in this case he has more balls than Usyk and in fact more balls than 90% of Heavyweights apparently.

Thank you.

 

I would prefer AJ-Wilder I, II, III
I would prefer Wilder-Usyk I, II, III
I would prefer Joshua-Usyk I, II, III
I would prefer Wilder-Whyte I, II, III
I would prefer Wilder-Fury II and III
I would prefer Joshua-Whyte II (and maybe III)
I would prefer Fury-Joshua I, II, III
I would prefer Fury-Usyk I, II, III (although that may be too much of a boxing matchup for me)
I would prefer Fury-Whyte I, II, III

I would prefer all of those instead of what we're getting with Joshua-Hunter, Wilder-Breazeale, Fury-Schwarz or Usyk-Takam.

I want to see all these guys fight NOW!

That's all I talk about on this board. I thought that was apparent to all.

I'm not interested in trying to "hype" up Hunter or Ruiz (for God's sake). We all know what they are. I'm not interested in who is American and who is British and who is anything. I'm not partial to any promotional company.

I WANT TO SEE THE BEST FIGHT THE BEST.

 

You're welcome.

 

Yes.

People have tried to explain this to you before. AJ vs Uysk is a grade-one mega fight and not a bout to shoe-horn in as a late replacement for Miller FFS. They picked Miller (rightly or wrongly) because he's American and they wanted this aspect for AJ's state side debut.

Uysk needs to prove his worth at HW to help set up the AJ fight - BASIC business. Beating a former Joshua opponent would help with this. And what you know, they've picked Takam, a fighter with whom AJ struggled thus giving Uysk a good chance to deal with him more conclusively than AJ. And so the fight builds... and with it revenue. Again BASIC business.

Behind Wilder and Fury, Uysk is the third biggest fight AJ can make over the next two years. So why would he or Matchroom waste this fight for a card which was promoted and arranged with Miller in mind, because he's American? The whole event is about introducing Joshua to a new audience, and with Miller out of the equation they simply need to get this card out of the way and move on safe in the knowledge the main purpose of this fight will have been served. Not ideal, but that's how things have panned out and it's looking like Ruiz. Ortiz would have worked as an opponent, despite not being American, because he's shared a ring with Wilder and has profile because of this. Or is Wilder still anonymous in the states? Is that your view?

Uysk has zero profile in America.

Uysk need to test the waters in the HW division. You don't do that against it's No1 fighter. His management would be representing a whole new level of stupid to even countenance the idea of throwing him in with Joshua, at late notice, and with no real promotion of a fight which, handled right, will make WAY more money in a year or two than it would make in six week's time. BASIC business.

And Whyte as already turned down the chance to fight AJ, because the numbers didn't add up for him. His prerogative. His loss. But a NON-STARTER as an opponent in June because his perception of his true value is not the same as Matchroom's. And, like Uysk he too has very little profile in the states.

You keep beating this Uysk drum but on-one else is. We get it. You think AJ should fight Uysk in June. Not gonna happen. Shouldn't happen. Will happen in the future. Move on now please....

 

If I see this excuse used one more time I'm going to scream.

Instead of re-keying it for the dozenth time, I'm going going to copy and paste.

Here is my response to Usyk NEEDS TO TEST THE WATERS AT HEAVYWEIGHT FIRST.

"Usyk was the World Amateur champion at heavyweight. He was the Olympic Gold Medalist at Heavyweight. He dominated the World Series of Boxing at Heavyweight, beating guys like Joe Joyce along the way. Every time he's stepped in the ring as a pro he was a heavyweight - entering the ring at 210-215 36 hours after the weigh in. Usyk weighs more than Wilder when Wilder has defended his heavyweight title. Usyk isn't going to enter the ring at 250 when he fights next month. He'll weigh 210-215 like HE HAS HIS ENTIRE PRO CAREER when he steps in the ring.

This garbage about Usyk needing to be "acclimated" to the weight it LAUGHABLE. He's been a HEAVYWEIGHT for a DECADE.

Usyk is a heavyweight like Joe Frazier - another Olympic Heavyweight Gold Medalist was a heavyweight. He's a heavyweight like Olympic Heavyweight Gold Medalist Ray Mercer was a heavyweight.

Wilder only won the Bronze at Heavyweight in the Olympics ... Usyk won the gold ... Usyk routinely weighs more than Wilder when Usyk fights ... Yet Wilder is about to make his NINTH defense of the HEAVYWEIGHT title and Usyk "still needs to get acclimated?"

Please. Stop the BULL."

AND in response to YOU DON'T MOVE UP AND FIGHT THE TOP GUY RIGHT AWAY ...

It happens in every division in boxing all the time.

Champions in one division move up and IMMEDIATELY fight the champs in the NEXT higher division all the time. See Loma. See everyone with multiple titles in multiple divisions.

SOMETIMES THEY MOVE UP MULTIPLE divisions and immediately fight the champ - see the Spence-Garcia fight a few weeks ago.

It happens SO OFTEN, that every boxing org has a line in their rules stating one of their champs can petition the sanctioning body to get an immediate title shot against one of their champs at another weight.

It's a rule that is used all the time.

Usyk could petition ANY org and ask for an immediate title shot at heavyweight. And since he's been a heavyweight for a FREAKING DECADE, and he's 32 ... maybe he should consider it.

I can't deal with this. You guys' "excuse-making" broke me before noon.

It's funny.

You guys argue Usyk's team would represent "a whole new level of stupid" if Usyk fought Joshua in June ...

But you turn right around and argue vehemently that Hunter is good option ... even though he didn't medal as a heavyweight amateur, Hunter got beaten up by Usyk at cruiser, and Hunter was scheduled to fight on Usyk's undercard ...

Yet Hunter is a GREAT CHOICE and Hearn IS NOT representing a whole level "of stupid" putting Hunter in with Joshua.

I never saw a bigger punch of hypocrites.

I'm arguing for great fights. And I get on here are guys DEMANDING MEDIOCRE fights.

That's it for me.

 

It's so true.

The fact is Hunter is a serious Threat to AJ. Ruiz will look like a t Rex

 

I just read Miller won't be banned by New York because he didn't have New York boxing license.

Eddie Hearn is such a CRACKERJACK promoter, he didn't know the guy in his main event didn't have a boxing license in the state the fight was taking place.

This card is cursed.

The final straw will be if Joshua walks out all bulked up and he ends up tearing an ACL.

At the rate this trainwreck is going, Michael Hunter will win the title because Joshua can't stand up.

Eddie Hearn should just pack it up and go home. Nothing good has come or will come out of this mess.