Marciano vs Foreman... What Can The Rock Do?

George always was stronger. I have long said George was the strongest man (in a boxing specific sense) ever to lace them up. Sure power lifters can lift more, but a power lifter can’t employ strength in the ring like George did.

But this stuff worked against him if he got tired. He used up too much energy as a young 217lb man.

And as strong as George was, there is evidence he could be crowded by guys 29lb lighter than he was. That’s all I am saying.

If one guy gives away 29lb and outmuscled a regular 213 guy he still isn’t going to outmuscle George Foreman. But he certainly won’t be being pushed around either. Because a good crowder can employ stance over strength.

 

Louis never embarked on the regime of strength training the comebacking Foreman did so there is no validity in a comparison.

 

You must of been down the gym with old joe then and kept a eye on his training program? Give me a freaking break!

 

No, I just read four biographies on him and his own auto- biography to educate myself on the subject. I also own early Louis films and his later ones, so I have a relevant point of comparison.I always find it advisable to get up to speed on subjects before opening my mouth and pontificating on them.
I can recommend it!

 

Lol oh dear lol

 

We all read the same books. Now try using your eyes. Joe Louis was not weaker at 213 in a pushing sense than he was at 196.

If you read the books you already know about the 70 unlicensed fights (many as real as any licensed ones he had) that maintained his strength .

 

No answer came the stern reply.lol

 

I know what his own autobiography said ,and I know debating with a poster such as you is not my idea of fun on a Sunday morning .

 

Where did Louis say he lost pushing/holding type physical strength at 37 ?

 

Foreman was exceptionally strong, even for his weight. He probably carried less muscle mass than Shannon Briggs but he pushed him back no problem.

Foreman wasn't just big, he was big and strong for his size which made him a monster.

 

I didn't.

You can't try to look cute doing things like this responding to only 1 part of my post (out of context) then whine and complain that everyone is being mean to you and accusing you of intellectual dishonesty. Boy can only cry wolf so many times.

If I had any doubts you were a troll, theyre confirmed with this .

 

Rocky, a man giving up 10+ inches in reach and 40 lbs in weight isnt going to last long enough to tire foreman out. Guido and Qawi were both 215 or more and both got stopped brutally trying the strategy you keep insisting Rocky would find success using. You can keep ducking and dodging this point till the sun turns blue. They CROWDED HIM AND STILL LOST, THE POINT STILL STANDS THAT NO ONE HAD SUCCESS CROWDING HIM IDIOT.

Foreman would in all likelyhood, given his size and style and power advantage, KO or TKO Marciano before he tired out.

 

Mcvey is ghost-wrriting a new Joe Louis autobiography to include the little known muscle withering period..

 

It is reasonable to assume Foreman given his size and power might stop Marciano before hes tired out.

My point is, what if he dosnt? And what can rocky do survive this period? I came up with crowding and used some examples of 2 opponents (one was 29lb lighter) within fights where this had been effective against George. I dont understand why that caused offence?

You said nobody crowded Foreman in 81 fights so I produced moments of it. You said a bigger Louis got weaker because he was inactive. So I produced evidence of 70 or so unlicensed fights where he was knocking men out during that period.

I dont understand why this disappointed you. Within a debate its healthy to throw around a few ideas isn't it?

Like I say, George might win. Or he might not. I wouldn't be surprised either.

 

You think Rocky-Foreman is about 50-50 then?