Nonito Donaire Is Definitely A HOFer, But Is He An ATG???

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Is Nonito An ATG???

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  1. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Couldn't have put it better. This all day.
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    He already is, in the lower divisions, so it's irrelevant what happens in the Inoue match. But if he wins against Inoue, he's a legend.
     
  3. POTUS

    POTUS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I had Donaire beating magdaleno. Arum totally screwed Donaire.
     
  4. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As a fan and person and athlete, yes
    Especially compared to the endless trolling we have as fans.

    Not every champ, (no matter how exciting) can be labled an ATG elite operator. The terms ATG, elite and just great are thrown around like it's nothing special.

    Only the greatest of the great can reach ATG status.. Most fans on here water them down so bad they have no meaning

    Exactly like donaire being questioned as an ATG. The real question for donaire is did he do enough to be put in the HALL.

    Borderline HOF, which is laughable questioning his status all time
     
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  5. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I dont have an opinion either way (simply dont know the lower weights well enough) but nice post... you broke it down very well.
     
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  6. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    How many four weight champion winner of 15 title fights do you know? He beat Vic Darchinyan, Fernando Montiel, Omar Narvaez, and Toshiaki Nishioka. Those are solid high level champions. He's done a lot more than many ATGs on the classic sections top 100 list.
     
  7. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    Again, how many guys from the past in his weight divisions have as many victories in title fights? How many of them have risen from flyweight to super bantamweight? 5? 6? (Jimmy McLarnin, Jimmy Wilde, Manny Pacquiao, Fighting Harada, Miguel Canto, Marco Antonio Barrera, Pascual Perez, and Roman Gonzalez.) Okay 9. Eder Jofre and Pancho Villa? 11.
     
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  8. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    He did enough for HOF.
    He flattened two HOF worthy guys himself, who were in their primes.
     
  9. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    There are 4 titles, so it's a lot easier these days.

    But it's about resumes, the guys he has beaten.
     
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  10. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not a fan but certainly an appreciator! Funny I was wondering this very question this week. After watching the fight Saturday and going back and watching some of his other fights I think it is open for debate. Anyone who says absolutely or absolutely not may need to dig a little deeper? I am undecided and hoping someone makes a good case for or against it. I need to think on it a little longer.
     
  11. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Donaire is NOT an ATG, he's a very good fighter, but not a true great
     
  12. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What two hof fighters did he flatten?????
    Vic was a one demensional front runner bully that got whooped when he fought legitimate comp and monteil is not a hof..

    Fyi: you don't become as great as someone simply by beating them or fighters on their level.

    Donaire could be a HOFer but no way is he mistaken for an ATG...
     
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  13. VBOX

    VBOX JOURNEYMAN Full Member

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    Well his career is not over yet but I personally would not consider him one of the ALL TIME greats.
     
  14. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think a lot of people get ATG and HOF mixed up.
     
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  15. Love2box

    Love2box Active Member Full Member

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    Nonito had accomplished just as much if not more than Canelo, but Canelo is a Hell Yeah!! And Nonito is an Absolutely Hell No?? I think you've watered down your own meaning of ATG status ranking.
     
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