Delahoya: GGG must win title to fight Canelo

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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    More mindless gibberish from you.

    ATG fighters had Canelo beating Golovkin. Fact

    Margarito was busted with illegal pads. Fact.
     
  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Dude dont talk s... I watched the list yesterday and from 33 reputable media and this guys have people who knowa the rules and how to score fights just 1 give the fight to Canelo. 3 of them have it a draw and 29 have GGG clearly winning.
    There was also a platform where vip users who are unbias scored the fight. I check arround 50 scorecards and everyone have GGG winning the fight.
    And you didnt answer me my previous post.
     
  3. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    You think GGG will fight Boo?

    Easy money IMO..both DAZN.
     
  4. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Dam right smart move going for undisputed something GGG could not finish
     
  5. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    I don't see how someone wins outjabbing their opponent while getting countered to the body and the side of the head with more damaging shots. That may work in the amatures but not at the professional level unless you don't get it
     
  6. BCS8

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    I know for a fact Hopkins and Oscar voted for Clenelo ;)
     
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  7. BCS8

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    That's because they're cowards and snakes. They're also making it obvious that Canelo would have been destroyed if he'd fought GGG a few years earlier.
     
  8. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Because the jab is not a shot right? And most Canelo counters were landing but in the air. And Golovkin jab is one of the strongest if not the strongest jab. I don`t see how you can`t count a solid left punch. And GGG landed pretty heavy shot to the head. While most Canelo punches was body shot. Should i say body punches should not count, simply because they have zero effect on the opponent? Unless you score a KD with Body punches or obviously tire your opponent with them, they should not count ? You agree on that ?
    And the jab is the most important punch in boxing. And by your logic fighter like Lewis, Klitschko, Ali and so on should be in the amateur and should not use jab at all ... Mindless logic.
    To outscore a jabber you need to constantly counter land on him and making him miss most most of his shots, while Canelo was eating jabs all night and was active for no more than 30-60 sec. in 99% of the rounds. Just not enough busy in most of the rounds.
     
  9. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    again the jab counts. but ggg was getting hit in the body and in head with harder shots that canelo was delivering. had ggg used the jab and not taken those heavyshots i would call that outboxing. you can argue lara outboxed canelo. But when you are outboxing someone you dont take those heavy shots like ggg did to the head and the body (kovalev -alvarez 2 , usyk vs gassiev BJS vs Lemieux ,Mayweather vs Canelo Lara vs canelo) thats outboxing when you land your jab and take little to no damage. GGG took many shots in the head and the body his faced was bruised up horribly. outboxing is landing your hits and not taking damaging hits yourself. also the harder shots landed will get the attention more than just jabbing. GGG could win if jabs canelo as long as he dosent take those damaging shots to the body or the head.
     
  10. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You are making looks like GGG didn`t deliver heavy punches. And all body punches count for power punch, even if it`s not that hard. Which is a big problem. As well as arm punches that land and are count for landed punch.
    You realize Canelo was outlanded in 10 rounds in the first fight ? You realize Canelo was outlanded by 50 shots and power shots were 114 to 110.
    So no Canelo didn`t make Golovkin miss and make him pay. And it`s not like GGG didn`t land heavy shot.
    If Canelo outland GGG in every round with heavy shot, while GGG is landing light jab i may agree that he is being beaten. But that was not the case at all.
    Canelo fought for 30-60 in every single round. And was outboxed and outlanded. Simple as that. He goes on the rope and was on the running whole night.
    And when Boxing at this high level you always going to eat punches, no matter how strong you are.
    To beat a guy with a good job, you need to be like Gassiev against Dorticos. Making miss and counter him. What Canelo do ? He was eating jab all night and could not find a way to pass the jab and beat GGG to the punch. He landed in exchange, but GGG simply landed more. I`m pretty sure GGG landed the far heaviest shot in both fight.
    Body punches are s***** if they don`t effect the opponent, so YES head shot will always count for me, if the body shot clearly not effect the fighter.
    GGG throw more and landed more.
    Throwing 80 and landing 40 of them is still better than land 10 out of 10.
    One power punch connected does not erase 10 jabs in your face and being man-handled toward the ropes constantly, especially if you don't hurt your opponent. This was Golovkin's fight.
    But why i even bother:
    Media opinions

    Bleacherreport: 116-112 Golovkin
    Bad Left Hook: 116-112 Golovkin
    SecondsOut/Transactional Boxing Rankings Board: 115-113 Alvarez
    Boxing Scene: 114-114
    Mirror: 117-111 Golovkin
    The Guardian: 116-112 Golovkin
    The Guardian (another scorer): 116-113 Golovkin
    BloodyElbow: 117-111 Golovkin
    Sports Illustrated: 115-113 Golovkin
    USA Today Sports: 116-112 Golovkin
    International Business Times: 116-112 Golovkin
    Fansided: 116-112 Golovkin
    LA Times: 115-113 Alvarez
    Steve Bunce: 116-112 Golovkin
    Dailymail: 118-111 Golovkin
    Yahoo Sport: 114-114
    The Telegraph: 116-112 Golovkin
    Forbes: 115-113 Golovkin
    The Independent: 116-112 Golovkin
    MMA Fighting: 116-112 Golovkin
    CBS Sports: 117-111 Golovkin
    SportingNews: 114-114
    Sherdog: 116-112 Golovkin
    NBC Los Angeles: 115-113 Golovkin
    ISportsWeb: 117-111 Golovkin
    Express: 116-113 Golovkin
    BoxingNewsOnline: 116-113 Golovkin
    Fightful: 114-114
    Boxing Monthly: 115-113 Golovkin
    NESN: 114-114
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  11. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    no effect on the opponent yet it made ggg go on the backfoot and choose a different gameplan had he gone forward something else would of happened. i never said canelo made ggg miss i said canelo landed those harder body shots and head shots countering ggg while all ggg did was jab and go on the backfoot
     
  12. BCS8

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    That is GGG's usual gameplan, btw.
     
  13. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    So did George Foreman, Mike Tyson, and Roberto Duran.
     
  14. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Noy really game plan his whole career was to walk down your opponent.
     
  15. BCS8

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    You haven't watched much Golovkin then. That's OK.
     
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