Is Canelo an ATG

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by George Crowcroft, Apr 29, 2019.


ATG?

  1. Yes

    26 vote(s)
    33.3%

  2. No

    52 vote(s)
    66.7%
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  1. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, Greb's 45-0 in 1919 was something else! Probably the most amazing accomplishment in all of boxing… especially when you consider the many top-class opponents he faced during that streak.
     
    Bukkake, Apr 30, 2019
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  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    2012- Golovkin says he will fight anyone between 154-168
    2014- Golovkin says he will fight anyone between 154-168
    2015- Golovkin says he will fight anyone between 154-168
    2015- Canelo challenges Golovkin to a catchweight fight at 155
    2015- Canelo beats Cotto at 155 and captures the MW titles.
    2016- Canelo challenges Golovkin to a catchweight fight at 155 and says no titles involved necessary
    2016- Golovkin refuses to fight Canelo at 155
    2017- Golovkin says he will fight anyone between 154-168, again.
    2017- GBP has to pay Golovkin a ridiculous amount of money to persuade him to get in the ring with Canelo.
    2017- Golovkin and Canelo fight.

    Moral of the story, Golovkin is all talk.
     
    IsaL, Apr 30, 2019
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  3. George Crowcroft

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    All I picked up from that is Golovkin was real pain in the ass to deal with and should keep his mouth closed and that Canelo was trying to be a weight bully
     
    George Crowcroft, Apr 30, 2019
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  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    What?! The whole point is to see if you can look good against top level opposition.

    Any world level fighter will look like a great fighter against domestic level fighters.
     
    IsaL, Apr 30, 2019
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  5. DynamicMoves

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    May 2016, Canelo drops belt while GGG is mandatory.
     
    DynamicMoves, Apr 30, 2019
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  6. IsaL

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    Well I guess you missed the part where Canelo challenged Golovkin to a fight somewhere between 154-168 both in 2015 and 2016. So how can he duck someone if he's actively calling him out?
     
    IsaL, Apr 30, 2019
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  7. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    And IMMEDIATELY calls GGGs bluff about fighting anyone between 154-168 and challenges Golovkin to a fight at 155, no titles involved.
     
    IsaL, Apr 30, 2019
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  8. George Crowcroft

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    The same way that Bowe actively called out Lewis and gave up his belt to not fight. And the same way Wilder is constantly saying Joshua's name with no intent to fight.

    GGG didn't have to take the Canelo fight at 155. Just like Ward didn't have to take the GGG fight at 164, and just like Canelo didn't have to take the Mayweather fight at 150
     
    George Crowcroft, Apr 30, 2019
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  9. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Canelo had never fought above 155
    Golovkin had stated multiple times he would fight anyone between 154-168
    Canelo challenged him to that.
    Golovkin refused.
    Golovkin also refused Ward, even though he said anyone between 154-168.

    Golovkin is all talk.
     
    IsaL, Apr 30, 2019
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  10. Dubblechin

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    Um?
     
    Dubblechin, Apr 30, 2019
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  11. George Crowcroft

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    I thought that as well
     
    George Crowcroft, Apr 30, 2019
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  12. DynamicMoves

    DynamicMoves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just Liam Smith at 154 I think. Khan, Kirkland, and Cotto were all 155, Chavez Jr. Was 164, GGG was 160, and Fielding was 168.
     
    DynamicMoves, Apr 30, 2019
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  13. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Both. The more fighters you have, the higher level which will reach the top. That is why woman boxing is not advance . Not too many join the sport, so the top fighters will not be as good. Obviously.
     
    PernellSweetPea, Apr 30, 2019
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  14. Dubblechin

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    Right. So how was he fighting for belts above 154 since January 2014?

    He fought for the middleweight title in November 2015.
     
    Dubblechin, Apr 30, 2019
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  15. George Crowcroft

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    He wasn't that was Dynamic's point. It was Tin man who said he was fighting for MW titles in 2014
     
    George Crowcroft, Apr 30, 2019
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