There's been no evidence offered that Team Joshua EVER wanted to fight Wilder. Wilder deserves 50%

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  1. de Morhalle

    de Morhalle Member Full Member

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    Yeah been out of the loop is a good excuse . When Ortiz's team admitted Hearn was real with the offers and Ortiz's team admitted they messed up and were begging for the offer again to take it . Yeah Hearn fights have been falling through Miller failed VADA not once not twice but 3 times . Ortiz ducked AJ and got caught red-hand lying then admitted the truth , and now Finkel says no AJ fight with this year , yeah been thinking on for a while now . AJ is the most feared fighter in the division by a mile .
     
  2. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Is there any evidence to suggest Joshua ever wanted the fight? The answer is NO.
     
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    There is plenty of evidence AJ and Matchroom wanted the fight and still does , AJ has fought for each belt individually and defended each one , only WBC left . It's pretty clear that AJ wants to be Undisputed and has been on that path since fighting Martin , what the hell has Wilder done since winning the WBC ? Did he unify ? Nope , did he face any top tier contenders ? only Ortiz and Fury who are not exactly tip top . That is all Wilder has to show for it . Has he sold out any fight ? Nope . Did he venture forth to get the WBO when it was up for grabs ? Nope . Did he venture forth for the WBA when it was up for grabs ? Nope . FFS Martin V Joshua made more money than Ortiz V Wilder . Wilder cannot sell out a boxing match , cannot unify and cannot fight outside the US , who are his next fights ? Ortiz again and Kownacki after Breazeale (if he gets by) might throw a Wilder Stiverne 3 in there at this rate .
     
  4. MVC!

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    The evidence.
    There's NONE, 0. Wilder deserves so much $ and that will happen in the future when Joshua stops hiding behind his manager and putting out bogus offers!

    He's too busy hiding out in the Isle of Glass Jaws.
     
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    So much $ like over $100 million ? , $7 million was a bogus offer to Ortiz ? which is more than the entire Wilder Ortiz fight . AJ hiding ? what in Wembley and MSG ? MVC you are the most unrealistic poster on this channel your worse than Dubblechin and 305th combined and that is saying something . Wilder has fought 2 mandatory's in 4 years ! His voluntary fights are lame as , he has never developed as a boxer . He lives off mentioning AJ's name now AJ is in the US and he is all of a sudden dead quiet . Wilder is a showman who is all smoke no substance . Bloated record , just a typical loud mouth gangster wannabe when his ego gets out .
     
  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dont think either wanted it at the time but I do believe they wanted it this year some time but when Fury fought Wilder it threw a spanner in the works.
    Wilder could well get 50% if only out of desperation to get the fight made as on paper(not saying I agree with the A wide thing)Joshua is the big money guy who’s draws in crowds.
    Imo the one big mistake Joshua made is insisting he fight in the U.K. cause imo that’s ridiculous as a heavyweight champion should want to fight in the USA as did Lennox and all the rest before.
    Wilder doesn’t appear to want this fight anymore and why should we care about the money side,what happened to guys wanting to go down in history and collect those belts,cannot get my head round all those decking Joshua.
     
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  7. Angler Andrew

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    Amazing how he trolls his own fans,remember when he kept on tweeting to expect big things when the entire world knew it was going to be Stiverne lol.
    Credit for fighting Fury but even that was calculated as he’d been in fat camp for so long,doesn’t pose a danger physically and didn’t look great in those exhibitions.Ive said all along that I expect Wilder v AJ to go down like AJs Charles Martin fight,so big is the gulf in class albeit he possesses knock out power I don’t expect AJ to lose anytime to Wilder.
     
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  8. Angler Andrew

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    Yep you’d of jumped ship when he fought Stiverne a second time.Ducked Povetkin as well.
     
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  9. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whatever happened to unifying?These guys are getting paid millions and I mean sick of hearing about it.
     
  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Wilder doesn't deserve 35%. Once he loses that belt he becomes irrelevant
     
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  11. Angler Andrew

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    MVC man you’ve lost the plot.Wilder would be earning many times what he’s used to and quite rightly so but Im sick of hearing how he’s been offered peanuts when we talking millions of dollars.When did you care how much Wilder gets paid?
     
  12. George Crowcroft

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    Wilder doesn't deserve two squirts of **** compared to what Joshua has offered him. Wilder has sent one offer, ONE. That one offer was for 50 million and then they control the contract.
    They were going to have put the fight on BT, which Joshua can't fight on. So he physically could not sign the offer.
    Yes, because Wilder's is made of Cast Iron
     
  13. JDub

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    Obvious troll thread. Boring.
     
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  14. de Morhalle

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    AJ is fighting in the US but let us be clear I would not expect AJ to stay in the US . The US is not the dominant force in boxing anymore (I'm talking HW's) , the stadiums and actual people watching in Europe is far more than the US now . MSG is not even a top 5 event for AJ that shows how much the UK now has . Don't get me wrong love the US I have huge respect for them and love the people , best mates as far as I'm concerned . What AJ has done in the UK is pretty phenomenal , 2018 AJ attracted around 150,000 to his fights (I'm talking bottoms on seats btw) that's only in 2 fights . PPV is around 1.5 million buys in the UK that's just Sky Sports Box Office (66 million population) US is struggling to do 300K PPV's with any HW . It's been heading that way for past 15 years or so really . Look how many American HW are upping sticks and going to Sheffield in the UK . I expect AJ to fight a few fights in the US but really expect the big fights to be UK Wembley and Principality stadiums , when he fights Usyk and Whyte possibly Old Trafford in Manchester when he fights Fury . Tyson Fury is the one trying to become a US based boxer , but we will see how that goes .
     
  15. Angler Andrew

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    Yeah for sure and in Usyk case he will fight in the UK,just feel with wilder that AJ has to call his bluff and do everything he can to make the fight as it’s AJ who comes out looking bad for some strange reason.
    Imo it doesn’t matter where they fight as AJ wins every time against Wilder and I think his team know this.
     
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