Is Mike Tyson a top 10 HW?

I have him 7-9 currently with Holyfield/Frazier. I could see him as high as 5 without thinking he was being overrated and as low as 12 without feeling he was severely underrated. But anywhere 6-10 seem realistic and fair to me.

 

People sometimes hate on Tyson I think to sound knowledgeable about boxing. Most people weren’t around for anybody beyond Liston and Ali, unless you’re 80 years old and watch no other sport or entertainment other than boxing. Tyson is no lower than 10 and that’s hating. In his prime he destroys anyone outside of Liston, Ali, and Foreman and they’re debatable. If people want to think that there are 10 heavyweights better or greater than Tyson you’re tripping. He IS boxing just like Ali. Come on. Tyson realistically can only be behind Ali, Louis, maybe Foreman and (or) Holyfield IMO

 

In the top 3 h2h.

 

The Holmes who beat Ali would have made Tyson look very bad and stopped him past round 10. And this is coming from a man who has gained a lot of appreciation for Mike since being here.

Yes, Tyson is a top 10 heavyweight, but Foreman, Frazier, Louis, Holmes, Ali, Holyfield, Lewis all would have stopped him in their primes imo.

Dream fight: Tyson vs. Norton. If Norton could sleeze his way through the first four rounds he would have decisioned Mike, and I don't care what era of Mike we're talking.

Tyson wasn't Foreman, baby, plus he's been first to confess having no delusions about beating the great Larry Holmes.

 

He is about 10 for me.

 

Maybe borderline top 10.
No higher than #9.

 

Depends on criteria, I rank mine on résumé and Achievements at the weight with a few exceptions, (ie. Holyfield losing points due to Evan Field's and stuff).
With that particular criteria, no I don't think Tyson is. But in my head 2 head list he does great

Lewis (10-1)
Foreman (9-2)
Liston (8-3)
Tyson (7-4)
Ali (6-3-1)
Bowe (6-3-1)
Wlad (5-6)
Holmes (4-7)
Fraizer (4-7)
Louis (3-8)
Vitali (2-9)
Holyfield (1-10)

Lewis
Loss to Liston

Foreman
Loss to Ali and Lewis

Ali
Loss to Bowe, Frazier, Wlad and Lewis, Draw with Bowe (can't pick)

Liston
Loss to Ali, Foreman and Bowe

Bowe
Loss to Lewis, Foreman, Tyson and Liston draw with Ali (can't pick)

Holyfield
loss to Lewis, Ali, Holmes, Bowe, Tyson, Wlad, Fraizer, Foreman, Louis and Liston

Holmes
Loss to Lewis, Tyson, Foreman, Ali, Bowe, Wlad, Vitali,

Tyson
Loss to Lewis, Foreman, Ali and Liston

Louis
Loss to Lewis, Foreman, Ali, Liston, Tyson, Bowe, Holmes, Frazier

Frazier
Loss to Lewis, Foreman, Liston, Wlad, Vitali, Tyson and Holmes

Wlad
Loss to Lewis, Bowe, Liston, Foreman, Tyson, Louis,

Vitali
Loss to Lewis, Bowe, Liston, Foreman, Tyson, Louis, Wlad, Ali, Holyfield,

 

H2H, definitely.

Not as certain with other criteria.

 

Absolutely

 

I have a hard seeing him outside the top 10.

 

1) Ali
2) Louis
3) Holmes
4) Foreman
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7) Holyfield
8) Tyson
9) Lewis
10) Liston

 

Not being judgy, but how is Tyson and Holyfield above Lewis? Is the list h2h

 

Lewis is a great fighter, but to me he didn't really start becoming that until relatively late in his career.

I honestly think the Holyfield who stopped Tyson would have knocked LL out. Just my opinion.

 

You could argue 8,9 and 10, On there another hand he lost his legacy fights badly and was upset by Douglas. A match with Witherspoon in 1987 would have been his best win....it never happened thanks to Don King. Its too bad Tucker hurt his hand so early when they fought, that would have shown a lot too.

Just outside the top ten for me. Put Tyson in there with a mere top ten contender to fringe level contender type and he might be the best ever at stopping him early.