Linear Heavyweight Champion is still Shannon Briggs by default ! Follow the path!

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  1. de Morhalle

    de Morhalle Member Full Member

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    To all linear champion believers . Think about it , Lewis retired still linear champ right ? Then it falls back to the man then , who was Briggs , Briggs was defeated by Vitali in his 43rd fight and Vitali retired , so it then goes back to Briggs again and guess what he is still boxing and still undefeated from that point . How could Wlad be linear champ when Briggs was and still is around and they never boxed . This makes Briggs still linear champ by default of Vitali retiring and Briggs still boxing he is boxing on the 15th June next month . Until Briggs in defeated he is still currently linear champion of the HWs .
    LETS GO CHAMP !!!!!!

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  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    How exactly do you figure it goes back to Briggs? :lol:

    Briggs lost the distinction when he lost against Lewis. Lennox retiring doesn't mean the lineage reverts back to the previous champion he defeated.
     
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  3. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It depends what you consider lineal. It's all B.S and a made up label. You are only as good as what you've been fighting and who's actually on top.

    Once it meant something but to many belts are around now and people apparently can't use common sense still to see a unified champion taking over for Wlad Klitschko spot with 8 title defenses is that guy .

    the funny thing is this LINEAL fake title was the reason we didn't get the fight we really wanted and people still roll with fighters using it to avoid a undisputed champion but cry about it later ! Lol
     
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  4. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Actually it does!

    it's why the entire concept is stupid.

    if we're being honest Joshua is the lineal champion bc he has Furys titles and Fury defeated Wilder if we're ignoring time frames now ? Lol
     
  5. Rumsfeld

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    No it doesn't. There is absolutely no historical precedent supporting this.

    Joshua never beat Fury, and he never beat the #2 man when Fury was gone. He has no claim to the lineage, even if he held all of the titles.
     
  6. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    That's not true the lineal title has got passed down before from Ali to Holmes from Holmes to Spinks to Tyson which was called a undisputed fight or do you have short term memory now ? Are you serious in telling me Tunney and Marciano when retired didn't forfeit their titles and hand the belts lineage status down ?

    Your a Fury fan , I know what your doing but reality is Fury forfeited that title and the guy who resumed his spot was Joshua bc it got passed backed to Wlad ...this is the way lineal has always been .
     
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  7. de Morhalle

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    If that is true then only an Unified Undisputed can start a new line of lineage , Wlad or Vitali or Fury has no claim since none of them were Undisputed . The only thing we do know is Briggs was still boxing and the only previous holder to part of the lineage . Therefore by reverence alone Briggs fighting a title fight against Vitali was also for lineal , with Vitali retiring again it reverts back to Briggs , and he has been undefeated since then , making him still the only claimant to lineal since the only ones to beat him are retired . Briggs is fighting 15th June so technically its for true lineal status . Making Tyson Fury a pretender or until we get an Undisputed Champion .
     
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    Shannon "The Cannon" Briggs is still the only true claimant . Wlad , Vitali and Fury were never undisputed , nor did any of them beat the man being Lewis . Briggs can claim Lewis won it from Lewis and since no one beat Lewis it reverts back to Briggs on account of him still being an active boxer . If a 3 year time-out can save Fury in his claim the same must be applied to Briggs . Also with a clean win and loss over Foreman and Lewis his line is clearer . Wlad V Chageav had no claim to lineal since neither were Undisputed nor fought the lineal champ making the line corrupt . Lol I thought you would enjoy this Rummy . Maybe it's why Briggs is still so loud he is Dovohkin the spirit of lineal is still inside him . So Briggs 15th June fight against an as yet un-named boxer is for true lineal status at the Thomas and Mack center . Come , come Rummy you know this is true Wlad avoided him , Wilder avoided him plenty of evidence of boxers avoiding him like Haye , Joshua , Whyte , Charlie Zelenoff .
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  9. de Morhalle

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    Go to the 28sec mark . Or in fact just watch it he is still the Champ ! Lets go Champ .
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  10. GALVATRON

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    The lineal champion is the man who beat the last champion , you can't be a lineal champion without a belt .

    And I guess that goes over people's heads bc once you lose or vacate a belt by any means you are no longer that guy , and it's the next guy passed down ...if Briggs hasn't lost he still doesn't hold a title the actual claim to lineal is having a certain belt as evidence to who that lineal guy was , see ? Lol


    If we do away with logic , Vitali is still.lineal ! He's the last guy to not lose the belt in the ring .

    The lineal champion has to be an existing champion , that's a fact!
     
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    This is satire hey?
     
  12. de Morhalle

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    True but with lineal they say its the man who beat the man since the man or men who beat Briggs have retired and none of them were defeated being Lewis or Vitali since defeating Briggs it reverts back to the man who beat the man . Wlad and Chageav never faced the man or men being Lewis , Vitali or Briggs making Fury's and Wlad claim fake , imposters , pretenders I name them . Briggs has been undefeated since Vitali retired so by succesion it reverts back to the previous King and follow the line .

    Briggs lost to Vitali in 2009 therefore with Lewis already long retired and a belt on the line making Vitali the new linear champ.
    Vitali fought 4 fights after Briggs he fought Solis , Adamek , Chisora and Charr . Vitali won all fights then retired .
    Vitali retired 2012 September 9th it reverts back to Briggs .
    From September 2012 until ..... well now Briggs has fought 9 times and won all 9 making him still the Linear Champ . No titlist or Undisputed champ has ever fought Briggs or forged a new Undisputed (hence the term undisputed) .
    If there is such thing as a linear champ then its still Shannon "The Canon" Briggs .
     
  13. de Morhalle

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    At first but look at the facts and claims , it's still Briggs . Fury is a pretender and anyone calling Fury Lineal Champion is a heretic and blasphemer from now on , supporting a fake claim from Wlad V Chageav which was never claimed or defined by Undisputed . Lol .
     
  14. GALVATRON

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    You can't claim lineal without a belt .

    If you use the passing down one still needs to claim the belt. The lineage followed the belt not the actual fighter bc like when Tunney and Marciano retired there was no lineal champion until one claiming those titles/ title.

    It's all how you view it but without an actual belt one can't really claim to be a lineal champion otherwise Joe Shmoe could claim being Lineal without doing any work and taking credit for something .

    It's also difficult if lineal status is not facing other top guys or champions to contest it.

    Fury like his fans live in fantasy land to, he is not the lineal champion no matter who or how many networks are pushing that.

    Wilder won the Vacated WBC belt he didn't defeat any known champion bc Stiverne was Joe Shmoe. It was actually Wlad then who took over the division while Wilder was fighting no one and Fury / Klitschko belts now belong to Joshua who's the actual lineal champion bc he has unified them and Wilder got his belt off a break of a vacated one and win it off less ranked fighter. Lol
     
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