Linear Heavyweight Champion is still Shannon Briggs by default ! Follow the path!

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Let's just take this ridiculous scenario seriously for just a second,

    Briggs has lost since Lewis retired, he lost to Ibragimov, who lost to Klitschko, who lost to Fury, which means nothing has changed today
     
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  2. Geo1122

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    It really depends on how you view the mythical title. Personally I feel you need to be undisputed to acquire it. I know many regarded Wlad as the lineal champ, as he fought Chagaev, because he was never going to fight his brother.

    Personally I don’t think we’ve had a proper lineal champion since Lewis.
     
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  3. Unforgiven

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    Exactly.

    The OP ignores the loss to Ibragimov for some reason.
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

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    Wrong, Foreman did, Briggs did, Spinks did, Ali did.
    No but you shouldn't use the passing of the belt because that's not how it works. And since Fury retired the two best haven't faced eachother and now Fury is back and so is still lineal champ.
    Well he didn't beat the reigning lineal champ. So he couldn't, Fury did
    Agreed

    Well he is. Nuff said
    Joshua? Who has Joshua beat to become Lineal?
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  5. minemax

    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Long live the King! Let's go Champ! :lol:
     
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  6. NoNeck

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    In fairness, the lineal title went back to Briggs when he knocked Wlad off of the paddle board.
     
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  7. de Morhalle

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    Too true , I'm just emphasizing the fact that Linear follows the rules of succession since linear believers believe that it follows a line not a belt . I'm merely stating that by their own laws and rules it's still Briggs if they want to stand by this .

    Your so right about Fury fans , since just before the lineal crap Fury was toting the Ring Belt as the only true belt until The Ring magazine decided to do away with it . Fury is only claiming this BS because he needs something to throw at them even a pretender lineage , when even by the rules of succession it's still by their own laws Shannon Briggs . Like you said in your statement about belts in that case really AJ has the strongest claim because AJ beat the man (who for some reason they claim never being Undisputed) and AJ Unified .

    Either way if you claim lineal you must accept that the WBC is the weakest belt of them all by reckoning . Honestly lineal is just another confusing mess that has in fact added more bloated nonsense when we have 4 major titles regarded . The IBO which honestly was really made by the linear believers to sort this out .

    I personally do not believe in linear since it's a paradox in of itself . I honestly believe whoever holds the belts are the champions (we have too many sanctioning bodies) .
     
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  8. de Morhalle

    de Morhalle Member Full Member

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    Nope no belt was on the line for the fight . Lol .
     
  9. de Morhalle

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    Fury failed the test and refused the rematch hence losing all belts and claims to anything . Doesn't a failed drugs test afterwards mean the result can be overturned making it either a DQ or No Contest ?.
     
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  10. de Morhalle

    de Morhalle Member Full Member

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    Delete this post right now !!!!!!!! lol
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

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    Yes, but it didn't. Therefore (possibly by fluke) Fury is still Lineal champion. But if he's only interested in Schwarts and Seferi then I want a new one as well
     
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  12. VBOX

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    LOL that was a good laugh. How many times does Briggs need to be defeated before giving up the lineage?
     
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  13. GALVATRON

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    Spinks had a belt he gave up he is no longer lineal after anyone does that , Foreman had a belt and only had 2/3 title defenses so I have no idea what your talking about ? ,Ali didn't retire he was suspended so that doesn't matter. Again your talking on a subject you have no idea about and listening to someones vid I already addressed on this thread and its impossible bc he like you are a fury fan so beleive what you want . lol

    Fury cannot be lineal he was suspened/stripped and retired officially out of his own mouth .

    He has no belts and all his belts are around AJ's waist!

    nuff said!
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

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    Spinks lost his belts by being stripped as did Foreman, they both Lost it whilst not having belts. Fury hadnt retired long enough for the two best to fight eachother, he then came back before they did, so he remained lineal champ
    So did Spinks and Louis
    Ezzard Charles wasn't viewed as lineal champ until he beat Louis, who retired.
    All but one. But that doesn't matter as when Tyson was undisputed with his alphabet titles, before he beat Spinks he wasn't lineal. Another lesser known example is when Terrel had his WBA belt, despite being older than the WBC, it was not more prestigious than Ali's due to him having the lineal belt. It trumps all.

    AJ has the same historical claim to the lineage as me and you
     
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  15. GALVATRON

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    I usually just run away from this topic ( something im going to do now ), i know the kinds of people it attracts which are very delusional ones.

    Anyone feeling the need to call their favorite fighter a champion when they have no actual physical belt needs to seek help,its an early sign of schizophrenia. :babeando:
     
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