Final Predictions for Jacobs Canelo

Canelo's head movement was nice but he didn't go the extra mile. He should've came on strong in those final rounds but he coasted, he was banking on winning those close rounds.

I can see Canelo winning a decision but he didn't make it undisputable. Jacobs was even the aggressor. When Marciano was behind, he threw 100 power punches in the 15th, Canelo refused to even increase workrate for the 12th round.

Canelo coasted

 

And how does that make Jacobs the winner?

Jacobs aggression was ineffective. He wasn't even aggressive for the first 6.

You cant compare every champions effort to Marciano's. Its ridiculous, and nearly all of them fall short cardio wise. Canelo is a complete different style ffs.

Jacobs was also much bigger than Canelo in there. I mean, Golovkin couldn't stop him. Is GGG not a special fighter?

If Canelo coasted and still beat Jacobs, doesn’t that make him a special fighter?

 

1. I gave Jacobs 3 of the first 6 rounds, then 2 of the last rounds, with 3 of the last 6 rounds being even. I was watching it live btw so don't expect the most accurate review. Jacobs landed more often and seemed to force the fight in these rounds.

2. I know, it was an example. Joe Frazier knocked Ali down in the 15th, Foreman rallied against Lyle when he was behind, Dempsey rallied against Firpo. For a modern example, Lomachenko knocked Jose Pedraza down x2 in the 11th round when HE COULD HAVE JUST COASTED. THATS WILL TO WIN, THATS A CHAMPION. Where was Canelo's heart at? Doesn't he want an unquestionable decision where he fights his heart out? Or perhaps a stoppage? Coasted

3. No it doesn't make it more impressive. It makes it less impressive. Coasting is disgusting and shows a lack of will to fight. About the weight, I don't really care.

4. I said the fight wasn't impressive and I was disappointed by Canelo. I never mentioned Golovkin, in fact, i never mentioned a disdain for Canelo not stopping Jacobs at all. I said Canelo didn't do his all to beat Jacobs. He left alot in the tank, he coasted. That being said, Golovkin's win over Jacobs was more one sided and apparent IMO. Canelo left the fight with questions

 

To be honest, this is laughable.

What are you watching? Jacobs won 3 of the first 6? How? Canelo was clearly the dominant ring general, and had the more effective shots. Jacobs flurries, when he actually threw them, barely landed. Jacobs also barely landed his jab. Any aggression he had was ineffective. Canelo outboxed probably the consensus top challenger in the division, in a much wider fashion than the other consensus top (GGG). What more do you want?

And questioning his heart. Ridiculous. You've definitely never boxed. Canelo was Comfortably out boxing Jacobs here. If anything, Jacobs 'lacked heart' (ridiculous) for how passive he boxed for nearly the entire bout. He definitely didn't try to win at the start, that's for sure. Canelo has been known for his suspect gas tank, conserving it as he did is the mark of a very smart fighter.

Ali coasted in bouts. Did he lack heart? A will to win?

I can tell why some of the 'Modernists' laugh at your points. Your analysis is poor in comparison to your knowledge.

 

Ali coasted when he was drop dead exhausted and ate a hundred body shots from frazier or was old and didn't have it no more. If you remember, Ali rallied against Shavers.

I have boxed. (not professionally ofc)

No he wasnt??? Jacobs has an argument that he won. This was not clear. This was not one sided. It was a very close fight.

GGG beat Jacobs more clearly. Also i dunno what fight you were watching, but Jacobs was the aggressor. And he DID have flurries that landed, maybe if you weren't so entrance by Canelo's defense that was only online for 4ish rounds

 

I think Canelo won pretty comfortably. Jacobs' offense was pretty ineffective. Canelo's movement was brilliant in the first half, but in the later half, while it was still decent, it wasn't close to as impressive.

For the most part I only thought Jacobs won round when Canelo needed to rest.

Canelo's engine isn't great, but I also think he tends to expend too much energy in his movement, some can get away with it, but I think he needs to learn more effecient fluid movement not to gass. Easier said than done though.

I think Canelo has shown he has the heart against GGG (even though I thought he lost both)

This is all with the caveat that I was a mess when I watched it.

 

Canelo is definitely a special fighter for the era, but his performances do not bode well for all-time greatness arguments

 

Ridiculous. You're the only one on this thread who thought Jacobs somehow won. I don't even like Canelo, but he clearly won. I would be interested to see how you score other bouts? Maybe start posting to the stickied thread along with me, Philly etc. I would be very interested.

Jacobs was not the aggressor for the first six rounds. Round seven was the first I gave him.

Canelo's defense was only online for 4 rounds? What? I think you need to rewatch the bout, it's been uploaded to YouTube.

GGG didn't beat Jacobs more clearly. He was deserved winner, but it was close.

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I think it's mostly his lack of workrate, but not for lack of trying.

I think he puts too much into movements he doesn't need to, and tires himself out. Some have the engine to get away with wasting energy, but he really doesn't.

If he's an ATG or not, eh depends where you draw the line for me.

 

eh, that's not even a rewatch-worthy fight IMO. Also, I don't care if I'm the only one that thought Jacobs won (though i can easily see an argument for Canelo winning and wasn't displeased by the decision)

Or, and hear me out, he could up his engine? More roadwork, methinks.

He didn't really seem tired by the end of the fight, though he clearly took breaks during rounds. He should've been drop dead exhausted after the 12th IMO. He should've thrown the kitchen sink, but he didn't.

 

So you won't rewatch it, to see if you're right (as you watched it live)? Wow.

Why not rewatch and post on the sticky?

 

Nah, I don't think my opinion should be taken that seriously on this fight in the first place

I watch fights because it's fun, I kept a scorecard because it's fun. You don't hear me blaring that Jacobs was robbed, no? Because I don't care to put that much effort into it. I've heard from many people that they thought it was a draw or that Jacobs won, btw.

I simply think my time would be better spent rewatching a fight I actually like

 

It think it's a mix of his engine and lack of effeciency. It's hard to say since I don't know what his training is, it could be a lack of roadwork, but I've seen a decent few pics of him running, some people just aren't as talented with their engine. If he is training right and can't improve his engine hi

I thought he won comfortably, so it'd be a bad idea to exhaust himself and risk getting stopped. You're better not exhausting yourself unless you absolutely need to. I actually think Rocky was good at knowing when to hold back, so he didn't exhaust himself.

 

I found this thread too late, but for what it's worth my money was on Jacobs. My guess was that Canelo's main chance would be that Jacobs faded late due to being drained and having to do the second weigh-in, but in fact he looked better during the second half than during the first.

I've only seen a poor download of the fight, but it was still clear that Canelo looked sharp in the early rounds and made Jacobs hesitate. In fact, he looked better than I thought he was against that kind of fighter, and I have to admit that it seems like I underestimated how far he's come since the fight against Floyd. I thought he had improved, of course, but not by that much.

Except for stamina he's a quite complete package nowadays, could even do a half decent job of cutting off the ring when needed to. They said before the fight that knee issues have limited his road work, so perhaps he can improve his stamina if he gets his knee right. In that case I can see him dominate MW and SMW for the next five years if he wants to go on that long.