HBO PPV: Gennady Gennadyevich Golovkin vs. Santos Saúl Álvarez Barragán II RBR

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    No, a clear as day robbery, and bull**** artists like you trying to rewrite history is what pisses me off. And isn't a pill I'm going to swallow. Exposing your bull**** and others is what I'll continue to do relentlessly.

    More debunking of your narrative rewriting below.
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  2. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    I just think he won the 2nd one simple as that it's an opinion a controversial one mate it pisses u off that others have different opinions than u
     
  3. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Mr Mexican style turned into triple jab lol
     
  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    So..... You're one of those people that doesn't score jabs, or notice defense, oh so conveniently when it's not a fighter you like right?
     
  5. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Mate they all turn into jabbers against Mayweather did it . That was an outboxing master landing your jabs while you don't get hit or countered much . Lara did it as well . What GGG did just throw jabs and get countered all over his and body . Lara and floyd was pure outboxing Canelo. Usyk gassiev pure outboxing . BJS lemieux not this crap that GGG did that wasn't outboxing that was outjabbing .while getting countered thats not outboxing it's outjabbing
     
  6. CST80

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    GGG thoroughly outboxed him, Canelo was countering a damn thing, it was Canelo getting countered when he was attempting his wild looping shots, most of which were being caught on Golovkin's forearms or shoulders, blocked rolled with or parried. You're too easily wowed by flashy movement, watch a little closer next time.
     
  7. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Na Mate it was a close fight thats all . Ggg won the first in my opinion but he lost the second one controversially
     
  8. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So basically what you just said is that GGG won both fights....lol!
     
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  9. CST80

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    :deal:
     
  10. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To be fair it's easy done.'re watch Jacob's against GGG and most of that flashy stuff that caught the judges eyes landed on arms and gloves as Golovkins defence is way better than folk think.
    Shows how little some folk know about boxing the minute they shrug off the jab as nothing is the minute I switch off lol.
    Maybe they should ask Canelo if he'd like to have a jab as prolific and dominant as Golovkin?I've noticed he's getting there which is amazing given he didn't have a jab not long ago.
     
  11. CST80

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    Golovkin's defense is an immaculate thing of beauty, almost James Toney-esque at times. His jab it's like a magic wand with a harpoon on the end of it.
     
  12. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'll never forget him against Lemieux,wary of Lemieuxs power he set about a middleweight record for most jabs and he more or less dismantled him with his jab,thud,thud,thud........thud,thud thud lol.
    Whilst Jacob's was skittish in defence,Golovkin just seems to step back out of range and as you say it's a thing of beauty.Just gotta accept that those get excited over Canelos looping shots(that never seem to hurt anyone)are probably just admiring the man.
     
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  13. BCS8

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    This.

    Run Golovkin's fights on slo-mo and he becomes much more impressive. Just because he's not slipping stuff by bending 90' at the waist doesn't mean that he's not slipping. Most people don't even notice how good his defence is because he does the bare minimum to shell up or slip and at normal speed it looks like more punches are landing than actually are.

    Golovkin would be greatly helped by a 15 round format, where his economical style would reap the most benefits. You could see Canelo and Jacobs were on fumes by the 12th against GGG.
     
  14. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So only 4.2% for Canelo, 18.5% for draw and 77.3% for Golovkin. Damn, Golovkin absolutely was schooled, wasn’t he.
    Luckily for Oscar, he only needed to pay 4 people, not 150.
     
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  15. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He somewhat suffers from his own success as a pressure KO artist.
    Nobody expects to see a Lemieux type of performance, nobody expected Canelo 2 performance, Abel included, which is why he kept telling G to “knock him out”. He totally flipped the script and went the outboxing route by being on the outside yet always in the pocket.
    Golovkin complained about Canelo running in the first fight and figured how to keep ginger in front of him all night with less effort than stalking requires - keep him in the centre of the ring, punch and turn, punch and turn.
    He ended up outsmarting, outboxing and outlanding a younger, much quicker and overall very talented boxer. I think his skills and techniques will not be truly appreciated until well into his retirement.

    As for Canelos power you mentioned in the earlier post, I think he can crack but have a look at his feet when he punches. Quite often he throws while still adjusting his stance - back feet is either in the air or just landed - he’s not in balance so there’s nothing to generate power with, just the back/arm muscles. Another thing to compare in his 24 rounds with Golovkin who is using footwork both offensively and defensively.
     
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