Is Wilder The Biggest Disgrace In Boxing

Ok here we go point 1 I agree with you Whyte is due a title shot no other contender has fought harder or earned one more than Whyte . Again I said either with voluntary or mandatorys Whyte will fight Joshua within the year probably after Ruiz I reckon .

Point 2 Helenius Chisora Browne Parker Rivas are actually WBC ranked fights which ties into WBOs . Whyte has been going down the WBC rankings and by preference the WBC fights to earn a shot at the WBC belt . He has no claim to the WBA or IBF mandatory since he is not ranked by them (If he is its not top5) .

Point 3 Hunter . Hunter was the frontrunner because he seemed the quick notice likely due to him being Matchroom . Now this is an AJ debut in the states right ? They want an American name opponent not anyone else so it was either Hunter or Ruiz Jr , Ortiz was the one they wanted and you know what happened there . I did a poll during that time and it was a dead on 50/50 between Ruiz and Hunter . Ruiz is the bigger name in the US with more pull , don't think Hunter's name is forgotten the way things are going he will get a shot soon .

The fact is this soon enough AJ will outdo Wilder on title defenses in numbers he already outdoes Wilder in terms of quality opponents . AJ and Hearn actually adhere to the rankings mandatorys and quality voluntary fights . Whyte is not angry at Hearn or AJ he knows big showdown with AJ in Wembley in the year is inevitable but Whyte is not the IBF or WBA mandatory or ranked top5 boxer in that regard . However in the WBC Whyte has been number 1 for a while now and still nothing happening on that front , you should be asking WBC and PBC what the hell is going on there . You then said previously that Whyte must become a PBC fighter , well that is tantamount to blackmail it is World Boxing not do as the US says boxing Dubblechin .

 

You reckon? (LOL)

I'll take a ban bet with you on that.

Anthony Joshua WILL NOT fight Dillian Whyte after Joshua fights Ruiz.

Let me know if you're up for it.

 

I'd put Fury and Joshua ahead for being disgraces taking boxing fans for idiots, which to be fair they are not wrong in their assumptions.

 

Usyk is injured with torn bicep you ingrate did you hear what happened ? If not then ... Usyk was training for his HW entry fight with Carlos Takam a solid top 10 boxer , Usyk torn his bicep and is out for a while due to injury Hunter is all but confirmed as the replacement fighter against Takam which is changed to fight at Vegas soon . So an AJ V Usyk is pushed back Usyk is not ranked yet till he fights his entrance at HW . You say Ruiz sucks well clearly at least half the boxing fans do not agree with this many rate Ruiz and think this will be a great fight and a good replacement many even say Ruiz is better than the Miller fight .

Fact is your running out of opponents for Joshua to fight without even mentioning Wilder facing his own rank number 1 contender and silver belt holder Whyte , no it's gotta be Hearns and Joshua fault . You were gone for the Ortiz debacle I remember look back to the posts . Joshua already fought Takam all these names Dubblechin either Joshua has fought is going to fight or fight again , not a single one other than Ortiz has Wilder fought .

Now we got Ortiz again then Kownacki for Wilder should he defeat Breazeale . Not really fighting the best is he I mean Wilder is WBC champion yet the number 1 and number 2 guys are not mandatorys nor are they even mentioning fighting either one . Fury is gonna retire in a year and Whyte is being dismissed , the WBC are becoming a ghost rank and ghost belt division at this rate .

 

Wilder is about to make his NINTH successful title defense. Joshua is TWO behind. He's about to go for his seventh.

Wilder's likely to defend three times this year. Joshua "ain't" doing that.

As far as quality opponents, both will have fought Breazeale and Molina. Wilder successfully defended against Fury (who beat Wlad). Luis Ortiz is better than Joseph Parker (ask Razvan Cojanu).

In Joshua's favor, Povetkin was probably better (all, right, he is) than Duhaupas, although Povetkin had just failed his second or third PED test that year and Duhaupas took the fight on 24 hours notice, so who knows. Povetkin was juiced to the gills for that fight.

And is Takam better than Szpilka? Szpilka beat Wach, Adamek and McCline. Who did Takam beat?

I think this "quality of opponent" argument is getting tired, too?

Facts don't back it up. Wilder's quality of opposition during this title run is as good or likely better than Joshua's overall.

 

Depends which mandatory is called first , I said within a year I will take that bet . The WBA could call the mandatory next and it would not be Whyte then it would be Pulev or Charr . If the WBO call their mandatory first it would be Whyte , but I will make this bet with .

I bet you Joshua fight Whyte before Wilder does ?

 

Okay, I bet you Wilder will defend his WBC title against Whyte before Joshua defends his WBO title against Whyte.

Loser goes AWOL for a month.

 

Did Wilder face Martin or Klitschko ? Nope . Did Wilder ever unify ? Nope . Honestly this Breazeale fight is gonna show you how overrated Wilder is , the Molina fights ............ well Wilder had a lot of trouble there didn't he ? . AJ on the other hand ...... well that was probably the most one sided HW fight I ever saw .

Wilder ninth title defence while AJ makes his seventh IBF title defence , his fourth WBA and IBO defence , and his second WBO title defence . AJ achieved more is his short career so far that Wilder has ever done . AJ fights are more exciting and definitive than Wilder's his views , bums on seats . Everyone says Joshua Klitschko can it be topped ? Everyone says Wilder Anyone can it fill a venue ?

 

Deal , I agree to the terms Dubblechin .

 

Martin or Klitschko?

Is beating Charles Martin a big deal now? And Klitschko didn't have a belt when Joshua fought him. He'd lost them all two years earlier. To Tyson Fury.

And Joseph Parker isn't as good as Luis Ortiz. I don't think Ortiz would've needed a gift decision to take out Andy Ruiz. He'll, Liakhovich appeared to beat Ruiz.

Wilder's quality of opposition is as good or better. Face it.

 

It was at the time , Martin Fury and Wilder were considered the next generation and future of Boxing then . Marin only other loss was to Kownacki in a UD . You cannot say Martin is not a big deal then say Breazeale is a big deal . Klitschko did not have a belt but the fight was IBF (AJ held) WBA and IBO vacant after Fury refused rematch and was stripped . Klitschko wanted to prove he was still the man to be 3 time HW world champion . People seem to forget Fury was stripped multiple times . Ortiz is a middling boxer honestly , gotta give Wilder credit it was him who destroyed the myth of Ortiz , after seeing Ortiz V Hammer and seeing washed up Fury V Wilder its pretty clear Ortiz is not anything special and the myth was the thing .

 

Whereas Ortiz beat? Jennings? GTFOH you donut.

 

Yes quite frankly he is.

There is not much worse than a title milker and Donkey is one of the worst of the worst title milkers.

Fact.

Then add on that he acts oblivious to this reality and you have the recipe for why Wilder is so shunned when having such great talent in the power and speed department. The guy should be a superstar, I love watching his fights! So entertaining. But he sucks as a human being. Only freaking idiots try to pretend that shouldn’t matter, it does, you just don’t want it to matter because you want to focus upon how entertaining he is in the ring and I get that, I really do. I’m just capable of multitasking on that point and the point about him being a tool.

Plus the guy is good looking yet when he speaks it falls apart rapidly with every word. The fact that he can speak like that as a father makes it worse imo, no sympathy for him on that front.

If I was that guys pappi I would literally whoop some goodness into him and make him a instant superstar rather than the good for nothing worthless spirt he is currently. Well he’s less than worthless, he’s a negative reflecting tool that needs to be silenced permanently in one way or another in or and out of the ring.

He needs a whooping to help him become a better human. It’s for his own good.

I just hope karma don’t give him a Stevenson type of wake up call because he has been asking for it every time he claims he wants a body on his record etc.

Let this post be a lesson to every ESB member that had previously tried to GLOSS over what a negative tool Wilder is personally, why I outta track each of you down and whoop each of your asses behind my tool shed,

Bomb squad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah that’s what I thought I said you gutless punks.

 

LOL.

Yeah, I might've missed out on that "Charles Martin was the future of boxing" span in the sport's history.

I seem to recall Glazkov's promoter forcing the IBF to strip Fury like 30 days after Fury beat Wlad...
And Martin being the token guy Glazkov was going to fight to win a belt ...
And then Glazkov tearing up his knee during the fight ...
And Martin winning via Glazkov's non-punch-related injury ...
And then Hearn overpaying Martin for a title fight against Joshua because it seemed like the best way to win a title early ...
Before Wilder got a hold of Martin and destroyed him in a unification (which everyone thought was going to happen).

Totally missed the "Martin was the future of boxing" span.

Was that discussed when you and Martin were smoking weed one night during the 90 days he had a belt?

Must've been some really strong weed.